ian smisth push the bulls win : Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:33 am  

4 tries for catalans , never trie, 1 trie for bulls ..................................................wait and see boots and all

if they don't want catalans in sl they have to say

i'm to sad for sl

Re: ian smisth push the bulls win : Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:18 am  

el lleo wrote:

4 tries for catalans , never trie, 1 trie for bulls ..................................................wait and see boots and all

if they don't want catalans in sl they have to say

i'm to sad for sl

Ever thought that they may have been geniune no trys?

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:44 pm  

Cheers for explaining that.

Sure, we didn't have the rub of the VR, from looking at the highlights on the SLS I'm happy with the way we played, 10% more nd we'll be on a winning streak.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:12 pm  

Things will even themselves out throughout the season and are you seriously suggesting refs will conspire to cheat Catalans. You must be deluded, also theres no relegation so how will this affect Catalans place in SL!!

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:21 pm  

I must say the idea that refs are systematically biased against the Dragons is a worry seriously entrenched in the minds of lots of Catalans' supporters. The refs are always English which does not help supporters with an average level of paranoia. But the fact that the Dragons have been very penalised these last two years does not help (sure it does not mean that it is the refs).
The last match with 4 tries refused on video and then the last one with apparently a forward pass (even mentionned on BCB) granted without video has provoked heated discussions on the forum of the Dragons. They are very upset and lots of them are convinced that the refs delibarately penalise them.

Personally I do not see why there would be any interest for the refs or the RFL to be biased against the Dragons, but the facts that the referees are principally English is slightly problematic for an international competition. I have for instance heard that the new French ref would not referee the Dragons matches. If this is true, this would be a blatant asymmetry.

: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:05 pm  

lpage wrote:

I must say the idea that refs are systematically biased against the Dragons is a worry seriously entrenched in the minds of lots of Catalans' supporters. The refs are always English which does not help supporters with an average level of paranoia. But the fact that the Dragons have been very penalised these last two years does not help (sure it does not mean that it is the refs).
The last match with 4 tries refused on video and then the last one with apparently a forward pass (even mentionned on BCB) granted without video has provoked heated discussions on the forum of the Dragons. They are very upset and lots of them are convinced that the refs delibarately penalise them.

Personally I do not see why there would be any interest for the refs or the RFL to be biased against the Dragons, but the facts that the referees are principally English is slightly problematic for an international competition. I have for instance heard that the new French ref would not referee the Dragons matches. If this is true, this would be a blatant asymmetry.

To be honest, a large number of Bulls fans are convinced that the referees are biased against us. We can produce a long list of examples going back years and years, and most of us can recite the worst examples off by heart. (Advice - don't EVER ask a Bulls fan for examples of when the ref has been biased against us; you will be there listening all day...)

My guess is that Ca\talans have just had the same bad luck we have had.

Either that, or the referees and the RFL hate Catalans as much as they hate Bradford!

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:14 am  

It is funny that you say that because I read on the Dragons' forum that the ref has been seen socialising and smiling with the Bulls team after the match (which naturally raises the suspicion of the Catalans' supporters).

Anyway, why would the refs be biased against the Bulls? There should be a reason. For the Catalans I understand the suspicion of the supporters as you may think the ref is English and he is biased toward the English team (and the fact that there is no large screen in Perpignan does not help as it raises suspicion on video decisions). But for the Bulls, why referees would be biased against them

Maybe if you ask the supporters of any team in the SL no one will say that the ref is biased in their favor and 80% will say that on average the ref is biased against them

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:57 am  

lpage wrote:

It is funny that you say that because I read on the Dragons' forum that the ref has been seen socialising and smiling with the Bulls team after the match (which naturally raises the suspicion of the Catalans' supporters).

Anyway, why would the refs be biased against the Bulls? There should be a reason. For the Catalans I understand the suspicion of the supporters as you may think the ref is English and he is biased toward the English team (and the fact that there is no large screen in Perpignan does not help as it raises suspicion on video decisions). But for the Bulls, why referees would be biased against them

Maybe if you ask the supporters of any team in the SL no one will say that the ref is biased in their favor and 80% will say that on average the ref is biased against them

go and sit in the corner!

as much as i'd like to think there is a conspiracy with the referees, i'm certain there isn't! we didn't get the bounce of the ball, when sheriff tried to hack the ball dead and away from bosc, it ended up clattering the post protector and bradford regained the ball!

things like that on saturday night caused me to think that if we sort our indisipline out then we will be in with a shout of most games

and just to finish, the referee didn't tell Bosc to kick the ball out on the full in the last minute!

Re: ian smisth push the bulls win : Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:55 pm  

el lleo wrote:

4 tries for catalans , never trie, 1 trie for bulls ..................................................wait and see boots and all

if they don't want catalans in sl they have to say

i'm to sad for sl

pero, que dius!?
catalans lost, end of. discipline and decision making has been poor this season and that is something that walters has to sort out.

: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:56 pm  

lpage wrote:

The last match with 4 tries refused on video and then the last one with apparently a forward pass (even mentionned on BCB) granted without video ...

But video cannot judge on a forward pass.

I wouldn't argue against th ref, over the season it will balance out. Sure, you'd expect that on average 1 of 4 attempted trys would be given benefit of the doubt, but that will balance out over the season.

Cala, I think it's unfair to blame Bosc, he is only human and mistakes happen. 1-10% extra would have seen us 16+ points up and it wouldn't have mattered.