: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:26 pm  

Indomitable wrote:

If people read Dalle Court's item they would know that they were all paid on time. Our side as struggled as do all new teams in SL' What I don't understand is that our crowds are much higher than Quins and not far off Salford yet we bear all the criticism and abuse. Over the years I have had to put up with union belittlement but they do it much more nicely than this constant rubbish from up north.

Thought Samuel admitted there was delays... but blamed it on admin rather than cash flow? (somethin like that).

Reds & Quins are really poor for 80+ yr old clubs! Shame that the Manchester / London / Wales sides ahve the lowest but your right Cru do take a lot of flack I guess!

Quins always use footy or rugby as an excuse and Reds footy... Cru prob get most pop as your the new boys under old rukes wouldn't of been in SL yet is all I guess... and ALOT is anger about RFL (in general) yet your the only one with a message board etc!

: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:26 pm  

I couldn't be bothered trying to find the decent posts in between the guff from the idiots and the trolls so apologies if im repeating what someone else has already said.

Who cares if there were free tickets? Surely in their first season its a good idea to give out free tickets (just like Hudds) to try and generate interest.
In the end it was a higher attendance than when Leeds played at Quins and nearly as high as when Leeds played at Wakey.
Celtic and their fans should be applauded for getting so many people there when it was obvious they were going to get a kicking anyway.

As for the bitter Widnes fans, I can understand their frustration to a point but why aren't they focusing their anger on Salford, they have a poor team, poor ground, poor attendance and dont offer the expansion advantage that Celtic do.

In the end if we want the game to survive and prosper in the modern world of media run from London we have to expand the game. Thanks to Celtic being in SL there are thousands more people directly exposed to rugby league than before, not to mention the extra thousands who will play it in schools and amateur clubs thanks to Celtics involvement.
There will be always a decent rugby league representation in Widnes and in the heartlands. There may not be in Wales if we dont help it.

The best way of hurting Rugby League last year was to admit Salford and Widnes to Super League. Imagine how much the w@nkers in the media and the BBC in London would have loved that. "RL is only played on the M62"
It's the perfect excuse to give RL even less coverage than the pathetic amount we get so far.
If we can over a few years get a competitive team in London, a competitive team in Wales and slowly develop a competitive international scene with France and Wales then they cant ignore us.
If we hide in our safe little shell and only travel up and down the M62 every other week RL will slowly wither and die.

: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:07 pm  

Agree with Big Rob!

: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:47 pm  

BigRob wrote:

If we can over a few years get a competitive team in London, a competitive team in Wales and slowly develop a competitive international scene with France and Wales then they cant ignore us.
If we hide in our safe little shell and only travel up and down the M62 every other week RL will slowly wither and die.

Well said!

: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:18 pm  

BigRob wrote:

I couldn't be bothered trying to find the decent posts in between the guff from the idiots and the trolls so apologies if im repeating what someone else has already said.

Who cares if there were free tickets? Surely in their first season its a good idea to give out free tickets (just like Hudds) to try and generate interest.
In the end it was a higher attendance than when Leeds played at Quins and nearly as high as when Leeds played at Wakey.
Celtic and their fans should be applauded for getting so many people there when it was obvious they were going to get a kicking anyway.

As for the bitter Widnes fans, I can understand their frustration to a point but why aren't they focusing their anger on Salford, they have a poor team, poor ground, poor attendance and dont offer the expansion advantage that Celtic do.

In the end if we want the game to survive and prosper in the modern world of media run from London we have to expand the game. Thanks to Celtic being in SL there are thousands more people directly exposed to rugby league than before, not to mention the extra thousands who will play it in schools and amateur clubs thanks to Celtics involvement.
There will be always a decent rugby league representation in Widnes and in the heartlands. There may not be in Wales if we dont help it.

The best way of hurting Rugby League last year was to admit Salford and Widnes to Super League. Imagine how much the w@nkers in the media and the BBC in London would have loved that. "RL is only played on the M62"
It's the perfect excuse to give RL even less coverage than the pathetic amount we get so far.
If we can over a few years get a competitive team in London, a competitive team in Wales and slowly develop a competitive international scene with France and Wales then they cant ignore us.
If we hide in our safe little shell and only travel up and down the M62 every other week RL will slowly wither and die.

in the end any thinking anti-expansionist or anti-rfl critic has to come up with a meaningful, timetabled and funded alternative to what is happening or else by default they are supporting rl to "slowly wither and die" whatever they might say superficially. Then the debate might have some worth and in fact be essential. The trolls have no worth at all of course