: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:35 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Nooo. I didn't say anything of the kind. The players' histories was irrelevant, my little stalker.

So you admit you were wrong and did not read what was quoted by the RFL

They are very good at deflecting blame and ' spin ' snnouncements

: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:22 pm  

Starbug wrote:

So you admit you were wrong and did not read what was quoted by the RFL

I admit to no such thing.

: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:33 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I admit to no such thing.

You being a woman that doesn't surprise me

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:46 am  

halifaxxx wrote:

good economics degree at newcastle university would suggest otherwise

and the standard of your 240 posts to date in this incarnation would counter that suggestion

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:52 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

Can I be so bold as to ask your age and how long you have watched the game??

22 being going to FC since 1991, not like it makes a difference or magically changes my opinion.

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

I may be mis-judging you here, but your post appear to lack an astonishing lack of insight into what the concept of SL, the removal of P+R, an amazingly apathetic approached by the RFL to clubs outside Sl and the 'expansion at any cost approach' has done for fans outside SL!

I don't care about the fans outside of SL, all I care about is SL and having the best to maki it a competition to be proud of.

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

The removal of hope of playing in SL has had a massive impact on the Championship clubs as fans of clubs of many years now have a more "why bother" approach.

Considering most of the teams would have had difficulty a) getting there and b) not having the facilities to get there I don't see why it should surprise them so much. The door isn't shut, all the RFL are saying is if you want to be in the top league then you need to be able to cope. Which most championship clubs wouldn't, can they draw the big crowd or have the finances to support such a venture ?

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

The lack of any empathy in your statement or acknowledgement of what has been achieved by the clubs you dismiss so readily, and the potential to achieve again but for the ridiculous way our game is now being managed.

The RFL are preventing clubs from running before the can walk, they are doing it to protect your clubs. Not to banish you or belittle you but make your club better. How many clubs have being able to go up to the top league and stay there ? It took Huddersfield a few attempts and Salford always going up and down.

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

The public proclamations of how badly the crusaders have been managed this year resulting in the lastest fiasco fuels the notion that it wasn't right to include the crusaders when they did. I still believe it is certainly a system of apartheid the RFL are employing. It's just so wrong.

I have said in an earlier post I didn't think the crusaders was the right choice but who else should it have gone to ? Widnes who had just come out of administration ? Halifax with a half built stadium ? Featherstone with only a few thousand fans ? Barrow with the ground that can't hold a capacity for a SL game ?

Its only wrong because your on the outside looking in, one day you will realise the RFL made the right choice. Instead of getting clubs coming up going bust losing poop load of money why not come up with a scheme were they can make money and steadily build up to a SL level ? I feel its people like you who hold the game back from going forward.

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:54 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Talk You Bollox

Sort it out for yourself


The Celtic Crusaders cheated for the last 2/3 years

The club Knew about it

The RFL knew about it

Better still Richard Lewis and Nigel Woods Knew about it

Happy with that

Bless you.

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:14 pm  

As I suspected, your age shows one amazing lack of insight.

I refer to the post Starbug made. It's simpler and as I'm at work it and I can't be @rsed to make any lenthy protracted reply just yet, his comment will suffice for now!! Pertinent as it is!

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:30 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

As I suspected, your age shows one amazing lack of insight.

I refer to the post Starbug made. It's simpler and as I'm at work it and I can't be @rsed to make any lenthy protracted reply just yet, his comment will suffice for now!! Pertinent as it is!

Well then, if age is an issue, I am 44yrs old.
FWIW...I am of the opinion that the RFL have managed the whole franchise thing terribly.......BUT......the fact that some so called Rugby League fans seem to get pleasure from the problems faced by Celtic Crusaders makes me fear for the future of the game.
I fear for the leigh fans....deluded that they could make it work (see 2005) or the fax fans, (see 2003) or (and I like this lot) Widnes ( see 2007....bankrupt or bust?).....
Simply put, to point the finger at a 22yr old because of his age is at least patronising.....I mean ......I am Irish.....so what would I know?
Lazy posting.....undermines your very point and makes you look like you are running out of things to say.

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:04 pm  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

As I suspected, your age shows one amazing lack of insight.

I refer to the post Starbug made. It's simpler and as I'm at work it and I can't be @rsed to make any lenthy protracted reply just yet, his comment will suffice for now!! Pertinent as it is!

sorry roth im 37 and i agree with him in the main. age has nothing to do with it really.
Once we settle down we will make good progress (and you know some of the reasons why that has a good choice to happen) and i think in 10 years time the rfl decisons will be seen as correct even if not handled in the best way.

: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:18 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Well then, if age is an issue, I am 44yrs old.
FWIW...I am of the opinion that the RFL have managed the whole franchise thing terribly.......BUT......the fact that some so called Rugby League fans seem to get pleasure from the problems faced by Celtic Crusaders makes me fear for the future of the game.
I fear for the leigh fans....deluded that they could make it work (see 2005) or the fax fans, (see 2003) or (and I like this lot) Widnes ( see 2007....bankrupt or bust?).....
Simply put, to point the finger at a 22yr old because of his age is at least patronising.....I mean ......I am Irish.....so what would I know?
Lazy posting.....undermines your very point and makes you look like you are running out of things to say.

yes it was a lazy posting - I was at work and was indeed struggling to get a point over within a few minutes. I still believe pmarrows post shows an amazing lack of immaturity, a crass lack of empathy for anything beyond sl and is consistant with someone younger. I accept thats not always the case with someone of his age but I said to my young un (25), I'll bet this one is younger than you!! Not that that should ever be an issue of course.

I believe the RFL were wrong to include Celtic when and how they did, and have evidenced why I thibnk that.
I WOULD like to see a welsh team in SL!!!!!!!
I would also have liked to have seen them acheve it on the field of play (with appropriately registered players), rather than by a political shift.
I would like to see their position in SL (or any other SL club - I don't think Celtic will fuinish bottom next year) challenged by a successful Championship club - regardless of who that is - who if they haven't the infra-structure in place can opt out of that 'promotion should they wish.

As it stands at the mo I could be a multi-millionaire keen to sponsor Leigh in their fantastic new stadium and they still won't be allowed up. It's a sporting apartheid and until it changes I won't ever give up the fight for the right of equality for all clubs.

I know Grendel and Jannerboyuk know my slant, but just to reinforce my stance:- I have no problem with the Crusaders as a club. I have with the RFL!!!!! I have no problems with the majority of fans - just the one's with an amazing "I care not for thee Jack, I'm alright" attitude, which does annoy me as much as some of the anti-crusaders crap I've read on here!