: Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:03 pm  

Encouraged wrote:

Have you bunch of pretenders gone out of business yet?

Super League my booty.

Come on there having a great day today! It's gone 2pm and nothing's gone wrong yet!

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:43 pm  

Grendel wrote:

Encouraged, where did you get a smiley that so remebled your face?

No Grendel that's what he's talking out of!!

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:40 am  

Encouraged wrote:

Celtic Crusaders = Joke.

Nobody in RL really cares about you and despite the RFL trying to bail you out, you will undoubtedly fail.

Give me 'Fax, Widnes or Leigh any day of the week.

Mickey Mouse joke club (that's not actually at all funny).

Enjoy your pitiful existence ya leek-munching interlopers.

I care about celtic, and quite alot of other fans do, i have heard people from virtually every club say that they want celtic to do well, just because you want crusaders to fail dont think that the opinion is universal. In there first sl season they are on the same level for crowds as salford, and they are wipping boys, with a more succesful team and a few years to put down roots i can see them being a succes like catalans.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:47 am  

pyeman wrote:

I care about celtic, and quite alot of other fans do, i have heard people from virtually every club say that they want celtic to do well, just because you want crusaders to fail dont think that the opinion is universal. In there first sl season they are on the same level for crowds as salford, and they are wipping boys, with a more succesful team and a few years to put down roots i can see them being a succes like catalans.

...but there's the rub.... Catalans STARTED with sixty years of roots. If you don't know, Catalans Dragons are an amalgum of St Esteve and Treize Catalans, the two most successful teams from the French domestic RL, which goes back to the 1930s.

My concern, from the outset, was that Crusaders were trying to build top-down, not growing a base for an application to SL in 3-12 years' time. I want Crusaders to work. I've always raised the fear that it was being rushed, and that a a failure this time would kill off Welsh development for decades to come.

Let's hope it really is all a bed of roses (and leeks and daffodyls)

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:01 am  

Wembley71 wrote:

...but there's the rub.... Catalans STARTED with sixty years of roots. If you don't know, Catalans Dragons are an amalgum of St Esteve and Treize Catalans, the two most successful teams from the French domestic RL, which goes back to the 1930s.

My concern, from the outset, was that Crusaders were trying to build top-down, not growing a base for an application to SL in 3-12 years' time. I want Crusaders to work. I've always raised the fear that it was being rushed, and that a a failure this time would kill off Welsh development for decades to come.

Let's hope it really is all a bed of roses (and leeks and daffodyls)

yes thanks i am aware of the history of catalans. I dont think it was ever going to be a bed of roses, it was always going to be a hard first year for celtic, the next few years will be the acid test, but i think that they have alot of potential and will soon (next few years) be outstripping quins for crowds by a good distance and i think they could overtake a few heartland clubs on the field as well. Time will tell.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:50 am  

pyeman wrote:

the next few years will be the acid test, but i think that they have alot of potential and will soon (next few years) be outstripping quins for crowds by a good distance and i think they could overtake a few heartland clubs on the field as well. Time will tell.

I don't! and you're right, time will tell! Tho I'm not yet sure how much time..................

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:51 am  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

I don't! and you're right, time will tell! Tho I'm not yet sure how much time..................

That i think is wishful thinking on your part, though why an rl fan would wish for an rl to die mystifies me.

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:55 am  

errrr........ where have I said that??????

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:57 am  

Rotherham Fev Fan wrote:

errrr........ where have I said that??????

So you want celtic crusaders to succeed and prove that the rfl where right to admit them into sl after all?

[tb]

: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:58 am  

Wembley71 wrote:

...but there's the rub.... Catalans STARTED with sixty years of roots. If you don't know, Catalans Dragons are an amalgum of St Esteve and Treize Catalans, the two most successful teams from the French domestic RL, which goes back to the 1930s.

Indeed. We played them in the first Cup Winners Cup, Arthur Atkinson scoring.