Re: Race for the middle 8's : Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:44 pm  

good innit this competition

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:18 pm  

Depends.

Jury's still out for me and will be for a few years yet.

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:00 am  

griff1998 wrote:

Depends.

Jury's still out for me and will be for a few years yet.

I don't understand why the jury is still out! for you.There's a gateway,something we have not seen for the last few years.Yet your prepared to sit and wait for how the outcome will be a few years ahead.

That way of thought is the reason you won't be attending the middle 8's.

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:47 am  

atomic wrote:

That way of thought is the reason you won't be attending the middle 8's.

Because I'm sure one fan's thoughts will be a potential reason for us finishing outside of the top four

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:03 am  

atomic wrote:

I don't understand why the jury is still out! for you.There's a gateway,something we have not seen for the last few years.Yet your prepared to sit and wait for how the outcome will be a few years ahead.

That way of thought is the reason you won't be attending the middle 8's.

I think we needed to give it a try, if only to stop folk saying "we ought to do that twelves and eights idea - it'll be great".

There was a pathway - somebody from our division could have been playing in $uperleague in 2015 under franchising. Maybe Leigh.

But we rejected that for a system where we could have none up, none down every year. Sure, Leigh beat Wakefield earlier this season but not convincingly. Things wouldn't have to change much to see that reversed.

And the funding's an issue for me. Are we going to see the top six - or less - of the Championship break away from the rest because they receive more funding ? Are we just moving the top fourteen closed shop to a new top sixteen closed shop ?

Then there's the issue of whether it'll just encourage "boom and bust" boardroom tactics. Who knows ?

How will the "marquee player" rule affect things ? $uperleague clubs can have one, Championship clubs can't.

Lots of questions to be answered. And it'll take a few years for us to find out.

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:48 pm  

Thank you Dewsbury the home game against Featherstone could decide to Middle 8 Spot Halifax are playing extremely well off late but we are still 3rd

3 Sheffield 28 Points +115 H Bradford H Fev A London
4 Halifax 26 Points +210 H Batley A Doncaster H Bradford
5 Fev 26 Points +141 A Leigh A Sheffield H Whitehaven
6 London 24 Points +59 A Dewsbury A Workington H Sheffield
7 Dewsbury 21 Points can only manage 29 Points

Halifax I think they are in, I expect to will win 2 games and will probably beat Bradford if they are out of the title race

Fev If only they had lost at Bradford !! but many thanks dewsbury, cant see them winning at Leigh (but i said that against Bradford) so if we beat them at home it is unlikely that they will finish higher than us and 30 Points could be good enough for a place in the middle 8's

London need to win all 3 remaining games including against us at the hive on the final day of the season to stand any chance of finishing higher than us A Dewsbury not easy A Workington is a long trip against a team who need the points to avoid relegation then us we currently have a better point difference of 56 which could also become important

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:54 am  

griff1998 wrote:

I think we needed to give it a try, if only to stop folk saying "we ought to do that twelves and eights idea - it'll be great".

There was a pathway - somebody from our division could have been playing in $uperleague in 2015 under franchising. Maybe Leigh.

But we rejected that for a system where we could have none up, none down every year. Sure, Leigh beat Wakefield earlier this season but not convincingly. Things wouldn't have to change much to see that reversed.

And the funding's an issue for me. Are we going to see the top six - or less - of the Championship break away from the rest because they receive more funding ? Are we just moving the top fourteen closed shop to a new top sixteen closed shop ?

Then there's the issue of whether it'll just encourage "boom and bust" boardroom tactics. Who knows ?

How will the "marquee player" rule affect things ? $uperleague clubs can have one, Championship clubs can't.

Lots of questions to be answered. And it'll take a few years for us to find out.

For me it's a structure.that shows who belongs in SL and who doesn't, with all the talking done on the field. I agree the gateway is only slightly ajar, but nevertheless open with financial rewards.

As with the marquee player,I see most SL clubs using it to finance their own existing highest paid player and not stepping into the market to specifically buy one, barring probably the top 4 teams of SL.

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:06 pm  

atomic wrote:

For me it's a structure.that shows who belongs in SL and who doesn't, with all the talking done on the field. I agree the gateway is only slightly ajar, but nevertheless open with financial rewards.

Ah - you agree with my learned friend, Hillsborough Lad. No connection between funding and on the field performances.

Re: Race for the middle 8's : Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:58 pm  

Andy Hay gone that was a bit hash after they beat Bradford?