Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:06 pm  

Airborne Eagle wrote:

So success shouldn't be rewarded?

How is "success" not being as good as the team you're replacing?

Franchising has raised standards in the game.

Stadia are better, development is better, admin is better.

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:12 pm  

I dont think the stadiums have improved since the franchise,Nothing has changed,St Helens,Wakefield,Castleford and Salford all sub standard stadium and all the rest of the teams have the same ground.

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:31 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

How is "success" not being as good as the team you're replacing
Stadia are better, development is better, admin is better.

Well you'll never know unless there is a play off but the success part is being better than your peers and being given the chance to prove yourself at a higher level. The team finishing top ought be invited to step up but to have the opportunity to decline.

Stadia are better because of what happened at Hillsborough but as EB says still a lot do do at some grounds.

Agree with Tim that if the Eagles were to be given a franchise i.e now we could not put a team together to compete in SL.

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:30 pm  

EAGLEBLADE II wrote:

I dont think the stadiums have improved since the franchise,Nothing has changed,St Helens,Wakefield,Castleford and Salford all sub standard stadium and all the rest of the teams have the same ground.

All four on with developing new grounds.

And LSV is just as crap as Hilton Park, is it ?

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:31 pm  

Airborne Eagle wrote:

Well you'll never know unless there is a play off but the success part is being better than your peers and being given the chance to prove yourself at a higher level. The team finishing top ought be invited to step up but to have the opportunity to decline.

We used to have one - and not so long ago. The team from the higher division always won.

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:42 pm  

But still an opportunity

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:06 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

All four on with developing new grounds.

And LSV is just as crap as Hilton Park, is it ?

Comon theres only so much time for developing were nearly upto the 3 years and no brick has been laid,
Actions speak louder than words!!!

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:37 am  

Saints will be out of Knowsley Rd at the end of the season and in the new one next year. As for the other 3, that's why they are all on the hit list to be replaced by Widnes.. oops I mean the team selected from those who have met the franchise criteria.

For me Widnes and Halifax should get a crack at SL next time. they may not be the best teams on the field, but we all know that whoever goes up, by watever means, has to completely rebuild their team anyway. That's why it's more about the club and its structure than just the team on the field.

Widnes and Fax in, Salford and either Cas or Wakefield out.

Re: PROMOTION/RELEGATION : Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:36 pm  

Fax are completely potless.

Widnes were financially a shambles at the last franchise and involved in a half million pound VAT fraud. They had a brand new management team - true - but with no track record. They have a better chance in 2011.