Paul Clough : Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:10 pm  

Not trying to pile pressure on the kid but Im expecting big things from him this year.

I am very impressed by his deceptive strength and his ability to have 4 men hanging on him but yet carrying on to walk up the field.

Also his abilty to spin in a tackle and close to line (as shown in the game at HJ against Wire last year)

With him being so young I can only see things getting better from him.

*Future England/Great Britain star*

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:13 pm  

Star? Bit much.

IF he continues to develop at the pace he has been, he will be a phenomenal player at his peak. Expecting it now is asking a lot. Let him keep developing, adding new facets to his game and he should feature for England at the end of the year.

Very underlooked by opposition fans.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:10 pm  

I've never noticed why everyone on here thinks so much of him.

What exactly elevates him beyond the level of your average Tim Jonkers, John Stankevitch, Mike Bennett kind of player? He's too small, isn't particularly strong or quick?

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:34 pm  

Ski wrote:

Star? Bit much.

IF he continues to develop at the pace he has been, he will be a phenomenal player at his peak. Expecting it now is asking a lot. Let him keep developing, adding new facets to his game and he should feature for England at the end of the year.

Very underlooked by opposition fans.

By some maybe.
I was pushing his abilities years ago.

My only concern was that some on here wanted to move him up to prop forward, and I don't think that his anywhere near big enough at this stage in his career.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:38 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

By some maybe.
I was pushing his abilities years ago.

My only concern was that some on here wanted to move him up to prop forward, and I don't think that his anywhere near big enough at this stage in his career.

Hes a second row, not a prop because of exactly the reasons you gave, he is too small to play prop at the minute. Maybe at the later stages of his career. However, he has played the odd game at prop for us, and he's held his own. I'd rather see him in the second row though.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:39 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

By some maybe.
I was pushing his abilities years ago.

You're an exception because (occasionally) you let your guard down and act like a rugby fan rather than a Wigan fan.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:09 pm  

Ski wrote:

You're an exception because (occasionally) you let your guard down and act like a rugby fan rather than a Wigan fan.

I'll always give praise to young up and coming players regardless of which team they play for.

However, as you know I've no time for over hyped geriatrics.
Is that more in character?

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:15 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I'll always give praise to young up and coming players regardless of which team they play for.

However, as you know I've no time for over hyped geriatrics.
Is that more in character?

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:48 pm  

Saddened! wrote: I've never noticed why everyone on here thinks so much of him. What exactly elevates him beyond the level of your average Tim Jonkers, John Stankevitch, Mike Bennett kind of player? He's too small, isn't particularly strong or quick? Well lets compare him to the best second rower in the world (according to the whinos) http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Quite comparable methinks. One is youngster finding his feet, the other is an experienced campaigner.

Saddened! wrote: I've never noticed why everyone on here thinks so much of him. What exactly elevates him beyond the level of your average Tim Jonkers, John Stankevitch, Mike Bennett kind of player? He's too small, isn't particularly strong or quick? Well lets compare him to the best second rower in the world (according to the whinos) http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Quite comparable methinks. One is youngster finding his feet, the other is an experienced campaigner.

: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:29 pm  

He was impressive last year. Another season like that would be great.