: Sun May 10, 2009 12:33 am  

Not wanting to get dragged into your quarrel here, but isnt one the 'desirables' from the RFL for SL inclusion to have a good travelling support? Doesnt that make the television spectacle that bit more appealing?

As such, making excuses for Cats, Quins, Celts not bringing supporters because its too far and too expensive doesnt really wear. Just ask TB (who I applaud for his dedication) about the difference in atmosphere between todays game and those against the aformentioned teams.

: Sun May 10, 2009 1:03 am  

Fax Missionary wrote:

Not wanting to get dragged into your quarrel here, but isnt one the 'desirables' from the RFL for SL inclusion to have a good travelling support?

'Fraid not...

FACILITIES:
1) Stadium has a capacity of 12,000+
2) Stadium meets the 'premier competition standard'
ATTENDANCES:
3) Average home gate is 10,000+
4) Stadium operates at (at least) 40% capacity
FINANCES:
5) Club is solvent
6) Turnover is in excess of £4million
PLAYER STRENGTH:
7) Club has 'contributed to the competition' (by finishing in the top
Club has 'contributed to player development' (8 first team squad are UK under 25)
SALARY CAP:
9) Club has no major breaches of the salary cap in the last 3 years.
GEOGRAPHY:
10) No other SL club within a 20 mile radius.

[tb]

: Sun May 10, 2009 8:20 am  

tigerman1+1 wrote:

why are they a muppet?????

For trying to derail a thread about a classic Cup game of RL and a great performance by Fax into an attack on a totally separate club.

ps: This makes you and everyone else who's shown contempt for the efforts of both sets of players last night - by using them as simply an excuse to attack another club -muppets too.

hth

: Sun May 10, 2009 8:34 am  

tb wrote:

For trying to derail a thread about a classic Cup game of RL and a great performance by Fax into an attack on a totally separate club.

ps: This makes you and everyone else who's shown contempt for the efforts of both sets of players last night - by using them as simply an excuse to attack another club -muppets too.

hth

The responses from some people on both boards is embarassing. With regards to that other club - what's done is done and i'm sick to death of everything that happens in RL these days coming back to them. I wish people would let them get on with it - post your diatribe after they've had three years in SL. As each week passes i want them to succeed. I want them to muzzle the rabid one-eyed Jacks who can't see further than the end of their club drive. Personally, i regard what the RFL have done as a wake up call to those lethargic clubs who bobble from one season to the next. Personally, i'd prefer P&R and the rewards that on-field success brings but like it or not, franchising is here and there are now other things that clubs must do and accept to progress, for the good of the game. I doubt very much that my own club would be progressing like they are doing without this impetus. Getting into SL is harder now - deal with it.

: Sun May 10, 2009 9:03 am  

tb wrote:

For trying to derail a thread about a classic Cup game of RL and a great performance by Fax into an attack on a totally separate club.

ps: This makes you and everyone else who's shown contempt for the efforts of both sets of players last night - by using them as simply an excuse to attack another club -muppets too.

hth

Actually old boy if you care to look at any post I have made on the game last night I have done nothing like show contempt, and I would for the next 20 years prefer to go to a game whether it be a cup tie or a league game with a team who bring a great away following like Fax did last night, if your happy to support expansion at the detriment of teams who can actually increase the overall crowd figures of the season, that’s fine. If you want to support a system that is supposed to increase the chance of local talent to come through but then allow a team made up of anything but. Then that’s ok. if your happy to travel to the south of France at least once a year (lets hope they don’t beat stains and we draw them away) and South Wales and London ok for you I suppose and then Scotland that’s fine but I know more who cant afford that than can, expansion at all costs, but not ours eh!, wait till the next franchise bid and a Scots team is brought in at our expense bet you will be as happy as Larry then... as I said explain to me what Celtic bring to SL that Fax couldn't. it wasn’t about derailing a thread I asked a simple question why were they Muppets and what do Celts bring that Fax couldn’t, as yet apart from your rantings and dummy spitting I am still awaiting a worthy response, maybe you could PM me with a reasoned answer to my question and we can keep the thread on track. Thank you TM1+1

: Sun May 10, 2009 11:01 am  

Mintball wrote:

Carry on not answering the actual points, dear boy.

dear boy

[tb]

: Sun May 10, 2009 11:04 am  

tigerman1+1 wrote:

Actually old boy if you care to look at any post I have made on the game last night I have done nothing like show contempt, and I would for the next 20 years prefer to go to a game whether it be a cup tie or a league game with a team who bring a great away following like Fax did last night, if your happy to support expansion at the detriment of teams who can actually increase the overall crowd figures of the season, that’s fine. If you want to support a system that is supposed to increase the chance of local talent to come through but then allow a team made up of anything but. Then that’s ok. if your happy to travel to the south of France at least once a year (lets hope they don’t beat stains and we draw them away) and South Wales and London ok for you I suppose and then Scotland that’s fine but I know more who cant afford that than can, expansion at all costs, but not ours eh!, wait till the next franchise bid and a Scots team is brought in at our expense bet you will be as happy as Larry then... as I said explain to me what Celtic bring to SL that Fax couldn't. it wasn’t about derailing a thread I asked a
simple question why were they Muppets and what do Celts bring that Fax
couldn’t, as yet apart from your rantings and dummy spitting I am still
awaiting a worthy response, maybe you could PM me with a reasoned answer
to my question and we can keep the thread on track. Thank you TM1+1

tbh on a thread about last night's game I'm only interested in talking about last night's game - and the fantastic contribution of Fax, both team and fans. I've no intention of talking about a club that wasn't involved in last night.

If you really want to know my views on expanding the game, or the licensing system, feel free to read my posts on any of the boringly immunerable tjreads rhere've been on the VT since 2005

: Sun May 10, 2009 11:08 am  

Tiger Bond wrote:

Yeah we were a really good place for you and Leeds to boost your points difference last season you arrogant fool.

We even did it this season, honeybunch.

Hardly arrogant. I was responding to the arrogance of one of your lot, who was wondering what Celtic brought to the SL. Like you brought great things in your first season back up. Not. So what that you beat us and Leeds once. We played you more than once, or don't you remember that? All other SL clubs saw Cas as the whipping boys last season and that's because they were. So I would suggest some of your fans get off their high horses and remember last season just for a moment and encourage the Crusaders to their first win. Personally, I'd love to see them succeed. Just as I wanted to see Cas succeed last year. It's good to have a competitive league.

: Sun May 10, 2009 11:33 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

We even did it this season, honeybunch.

Hardly arrogant. I was responding to the arrogance of one of your lot, who was wondering what Celtic brought to the SL. Like you brought great things in your first season back up. Not. So what that you beat us and Leeds once. We played you more than once, or don't you remember that? All other SL clubs saw Cas as the whipping boys last season and that's because they were. So I would suggest some of your fans get off their high horses and remember last season just for a moment and encourage the Crusaders to their first win. Personally, I'd love to see them succeed. Just as I wanted to see Cas succeed last year. It's good to have a competitive league.

Like i said before when we finised bottom we were just 2 pooints behind Hull FC that is just one win. We did it with local youngsters in the side and Celtic are doing it with 2nd rate aussies right or wrong? Do you see celtic getting anywhere near 15 points this year?

: Sun May 10, 2009 11:34 am  

tigerman1+1 wrote:

... if your happy to travel to the south of France at least once a year (lets hope they don’t beat stains and we draw them away) and South Wales and London ok for you I suppose and then Scotland that’s fine but ...

Listen, before digging ever deeper, check tb's location.

Then ask if he's a season ticket holder at Cas.

Then keep twaddling on about travel if you want to make yourself look even more idiotic.