[Matt_Horton]

: Thu May 21, 2009 12:40 am  

STEVENM wrote:

And at what cost though ?

The Salary Cap is a lot higher in the Premiership. I think it's in the region of £4million

: Thu May 21, 2009 10:52 am  

STEVENM wrote:

And at what cost though ?

And to who?

I suppose it depends on the level of hand out the clubs receive centrally from the governing body.

: Fri May 22, 2009 11:48 am  

STEVENM wrote:

The attendances were still poor last time they were in the Premiership so what makes you think it will be different this time.
About as poor as Cas, Wakefield or Huddersfields attendances.
The club have constantly made losses so again why would it be different this time, especially as they will probably have to spend far more on players this time to survive.
If they get relegated again there probably will be no way back.
Yes it could affect the Rhinos- have you not heard of inter company loans.

I havent suggested it would be any different this time. I still dont see how Leeds Carnegie getting promoted will negatively affect the Rhinos.
I dont see any possible reason as to why the Rhinos would loan money to the union team. And does Caddicks funding of the union side mean he'll put less money into the Rhinos? I seriously doubt he's stupid enough to subsidise a part of the business making a loss at the expense of a part of the business making a profit. Not to mention the costs of the ground, training facilities etct that if the union side went under Leeds Rhinos would have to bear on its own.
As I said, the extra money from the Guinness Premiership and TV money MAY help us get a new South Stand quicker.

: Fri May 22, 2009 12:12 pm  

STEVENM wrote:

The attendances were still poor last time they were in the Premiership so what makes you think it will be different this time.The club have constantly made losses so again why would it be different this time, especially as they will probably have to spend far more on players this time to survive.
If they get relegated again there probably will be no way back.
Yes it could affect the Rhinos- have you not heard of inter company loans.

The accounts are online if you fancy having a wander over to the Companies House website and finding some evidence of this financial interaction between the two trading arms of Leeds Rugby Limited...?

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Fri May 22, 2009 12:47 pm  

Oldham Rhino wrote:

Are our country cousins preparing to invade the big city? Thought they weren't due til the middle of August.

: Fri May 22, 2009 2:04 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

The accounts are online if you fancy having a wander over to the Companies House website and finding some evidence of this financial interaction between the two trading arms of Leeds Rugby Limited...?

I never said any loans had taken place - just suggested that it was possible from one of the "profitable" companies in the group which could/would put a strain on the lenders company.Do you dispute the Union side make losses ?

: Fri May 22, 2009 2:15 pm  

STEVENM wrote:

I never said any loans had taken place - just suggested that it was possible from one of the "profitable" companies in the group which could/would put a strain on the lenders company.Do you dispute the Union side make losses ?

I dont quite see what your point is?

: Fri May 22, 2009 2:20 pm  

BigRob wrote:

I dont quite see what your point is?

I can't be bothered to go through the thread again,but I believe it was mentioned if the Rhinos were holding back on spending the cap limit because of the costs of Leeds Carnegie.I was merely pointing out this was a possibility because of the amount of funding the Union would require to be competitive - far much more money than last time.

: Fri May 22, 2009 4:22 pm  

STEVENM wrote:

I can't be bothered to go through the thread again,but I believe it was mentioned if the Rhinos were holding back on spending the cap limit because of the costs of Leeds Carnegie.I was merely pointing out this was a possibility because of the amount of funding the Union would require to be competitive - far much more money than last time.

Actually it was only you who mentioned this. No-one else did. Plus you've already admitted there is no evidence of the Rhinos funding Carnegie.
Caddick may be funding Carnegie, but does that really have a negative effect on the Rhinos? I doubt it and there is no evidence of that whatsoever.
Why would it cost the Union team more than the last time they were in the Premiership?

: Wed May 27, 2009 12:04 am  

the club will now revert to being the Leeds Tykes, as the GP has a ban on sponsors names (which is all Carnegie is).

Tykes average crowds in 07-8 were in the region of 7k, which is part of a consistent increase over the last few years. With Back & Key in charge, the signings seem to be being made (lock from Leicester & back rower from Bristol) so far to keep us up.

There's also a hardcore of honest GP level pros in the current side, such as MacDonald, Rawlinson, Murphy, Fourie, Barrow & Hinton. It simply remains for the attraction of a few extras in key areas-Chris Whittaker and Henry Fa'afili have been mentioned-and I'm confident leeds (now by agreement the fittest side in the GP due to Backy's conditioning regime) will stay up. Especially as Newcastle look so shocking.