Hull's elephant in the room : Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:06 pm  

http://www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... club_stats Missed tackle count before tonight's game Percival should never have been down that end of the pitch with that last try We are by far the worst team in the whole league with missed tackles No team can reach the GF with that many against them, surely It's haunting us but we don't seem to hear much about it We have to totally address the discipline that comes with missed tackles It's a mind set

http://www.rugby-league.com/superleague ... club_stats Missed tackle count before tonight's game Percival should never have been down that end of the pitch with that last try We are by far the worst team in the whole league with missed tackles No team can reach the GF with that many against them, surely It's haunting us but we don't seem to hear much about it We have to totally address the discipline that comes with missed tackles It's a mind set

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:10 pm  

A closer look shows we also have had to make so many more tackles than most teams
That's poor completion rates and Ill discipline

Wigan have made so fewer tackles than us over the season

Work to do setting a mind frame of completions , good discipline and defence

All 3 needed to win a GF

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:11 pm  

We won't make the Grand Final and I reckon we could struggle for the 4.

We've being blessed with the fact Saints Wigan and Warrington have all had really bad seasons.

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:22 pm  

It's hardly the elephant in the room when everyone's known about it for months and has been discussed at length on here.

We have by far the widest gap in SL between our best and worst performances. At best we're the best in the comp and at worst we concede 50+ at home in consecutive games.

Too many errors meaning too much defending leading to missing tackles

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:12 am  

Fair point Jake
We're getting to nitty gritty
To make the GF we need to be the best in
missed tackles , discipline and completion rates

We don't need to be the biggest side just the
Best drilled smartest side

Radfud - "errors were due to mindset "

Just had a good look again at count after this weekends matches

We are still
Worst by far on Missed Tackles
We are 2nd worst team on Errors
4th worst on penalties

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:07 am  

Reading Hull Mail and they are running with
the theme of Errors
A poster mentioned that Leeds had 48 more play the balls than Hull
Add that to missed tackles and penalties and I can't believe how well we did to nearly beat Leeds

This is also actually very positive !

If we could tighten up the schoolboy stuff then we could become the best Comp and CC would be ours

If Bellamy came from
Storm to coach Hull he'd be licking his lips at the squad
and he'd know just where we need improvements

Come on Lee - sort it out quick and it
Could be another stellar year

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:31 am  

Could it be that leeds being down to 14 players for much of the game had an impact on how we were so close despite our errors/leeds extra PTBs?

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:51 am  

Ah good old super coach Craig Bellemy.

He'd sort us out alright, like he did with NSW state of origin. He's had some of the games best ever players at his disposal and he's only won 1 premiership in 13 years.

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:56 am  

Missing tackles... still have a superb chance for both trophies. I believe this year you may just play your best stuff when it matters.
You're flying well under the radar. Less pressure, no media expectations and no top spot to think about.

Unless our super slim hopes of snatching a top 4 spot from you happens, I'd have no complaints in seeing you as champs this year.

Re: Hull's elephant in the room : Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:08 am  

Isn't missed tackles a side effect of having bulky players. There's always a trade off with a big pack against a mobile pack and that's maybe it. You get massive go forward and tire out defences but smaller quicker players will slip through.

It's the way your teams set up and the benefits often out weigh the negatives.