Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:02 am  

chissitt wrote:

I do read what people post and I've not read any of this new about turn rubbish you are now coming out with, I have certainly got the ability to interpret stuff when it's laid out clearly whether I have an agenda or not, and please feel free to analyse my agenda, but when you deliberately try and mislead people on your political persuasions then it's not difficult to misread, might I be so bold as to suggest you make your opinions clear in future it may save you further embarrassment, and it's only an observation but I can now see why you still have a soft spot for the Tories.

There you go again. "Deliberately mislead" = you being utterly ignorant and never reading what people post because in your black and white world the only thing which matters is defending the Conservative party and making ridiculous, simplistic assumptions about anyone who criticises them.

I know it's a lonely business mounting a desperate defence after all your fellow TDLers have just suddenly disappeared from here but you being overworked doesn't mean you get away with spouting rubbish.

Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:29 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

There you go again. "Deliberately mislead" = you being utterly ignorant and never reading what people post because in your black and white world the only thing which matters is defending the Conservative party and making ridiculous, simplistic assumptions about anyone who criticises them.

I know it's a lonely business mounting a desperate defence after all your fellow TDLers have just suddenly disappeared from here but you being overworked doesn't mean you get away with spouting rubbish.

All these accusations made about me defending the Tories let's settle it once and for all, please show me where I have defended them once on here, and by that I mean defending them and not actually asking you to prove your allegations against them, that is not defending them.

In my black and white world you make an assumption, to me it's either right or wrong, if I don't believe you then I've asked you to prove it which incidentally you never have, that's mainly because you can't, just out of interest how do you know it's a lonely business mounting a desperate attempt at whatever's in your imagination, are you speaking from experience, your behaviour and demeanor would suggest so, as I've said in my previous post I'm sure your not too happy with your new found friends and quietly yearn for the good old days down at the Conservative club with mum and dad drinking the odd sherry.

Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:03 am  

Would it surprise you to learn that I don't plan to go back through 2,000+ posts to prove something to you that other people understood perfectly well at the time?

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Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:59 am  

chissitt wrote:

All these accusations made about me defending the Tories let's settle it once and for all, please show me where I have defended them once on here, and by that I mean defending them and not actually asking you to prove your allegations against them, that is not defending them.

In my black and white world you make an assumption, to me it's either right or wrong, if I don't believe you then I've asked you to prove it which incidentally you never have, that's mainly because you can't, just out of interest how do you know it's a lonely business mounting a desperate attempt at whatever's in your imagination, are you speaking from experience, your behaviour and demeanor would suggest so, as I've said in my previous post I'm sure your not too happy with your new found friends and quietly yearn for the good old days down at the Conservative club with mum and dad drinking the odd sherry.

You haven't explicitly said your political leanings, so I couldn't say with certainty how to characterise you politically. However, the things that wind you up about other posters and your overall style say to me that you are a disaffected right-winger, who feels politically homeless. I think the nearest political party to your politics would be Reform UK. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I suspect that's the impression a few people may have.

Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:40 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Would it surprise you to learn that I don't plan to go back through 2,000+ posts to prove something to you that other people understood perfectly well at the time?

Nice try but which other people? I've responded to the accusations of you and your two mates Wink & Blink only, it's hardly my fault if one or two take exception to me asking for some sort of proof regarding your outrageous allegations regarding the day to day running of the Government, you really don't have to go back through the 2,000+ posts simply because there's maybe 30 if that, but once again don't let a bit of exaggeration get in the way of things, it's like second nature to you isit

Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:59 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

You haven't explicitly said your political leanings, so I couldn't say with certainty how to characterise you politically. However, the things that wind you up about other posters and your overall style say to me that you are a disaffected right-winger, who feels politically homeless. I think the nearest political party to your politics would be Reform UK. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I suspect that's the impression a few people may have.

Very astute of you squire, that could well be because I have no political leanings and am only getting slightly involved as there's not much rugby talk about if that helps, as it goes nothing winds me up about other posters not even they're refusal to believe that I have no affiliation to any political party, deep down they know this but it's all they've got to come back with, I've never had a straight answer off ghosty yet and his frustration is now showing through, as for yourself Pumpy you need to work on your psychoanalysing a bit more because you are so wrong about me but I'll just have to live with it, I could recommend a couple on here to practise on but fair warning it would result in a headache, maybe in your case a migraine

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Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:07 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Very astute of you squire, that could well be because I have no political leanings and am only getting slightly involved as there's not much rugby talk about if that helps, as it goes nothing winds me up about other posters not even they're refusal to believe that I have no affiliation to any political party, deep down they know this but it's all they've got to come back with, I've never had a straight answer off ghosty yet and his frustration is now showing through, as for yourself Pumpy you need to work on your psychoanalysing a bit more because you are so wrong about me but I'll just have to live with it, I could recommend a couple on here to practise on but fair warning it would result in a headache, maybe in your case a migraine

Well fair enough, I was interested to know what your political persuasion is, but you are under no obligation to answer me. For what it's worth I honestly don't think its possible to not have a political stance. The sum total of your views about all manner of things such as society, business etc would all equate to a broad political label. You've definitely got one, but choose not to share it, as is your right.

Re: Why ? : Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:00 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Well fair enough, I was interested to know what your political persuasion is, but you are under no obligation to answer me. For what it's worth I honestly don't think its possible to not have a political stance. The sum total of your views about all manner of things such as society, business etc would all equate to a broad political label. You've definitely got one, but choose not to share it, as is your right.

Not sure if your genuine or simply trying to wind me up, please explain to me in the simplest terms the sum total of my views about the manner of all things in life such as society, business etc which would equate to my life, and just because you are convinced I've got one how do you come to that conclusion? here's a couple of starters for you, I don't read newspapers the last one I read was the News of the world in which I read just the sports section every Sunday, it's not because I'm tight either as I donate monthly to the RSPCA, the guide dogs for the blind, Dogs Trust, and the PDSA plus other local charities, I've got a son and a daughter and 4 grandkids, my only sins are watching Wakey Barnsley FC and Yorks CC, other than that I take a size 11 shoe but wear a size 9, simply because when I take them off it's such a pleasure, did I mention that the only feeling I have for any politician of any party is one of contempt, now why don't you put that expensive education of yours into gear and justify your beliefs, good luck btw.

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Re: Why ? : Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:07 pm  

chissitt wrote:

Not sure if your genuine or simply trying to wind me up, please explain to me in the simplest terms the sum total of my views about the manner of all things in life such as society, business etc which would equate to my life, and just because you are convinced I've got one how do you come to that conclusion?

I think you've misunderstood me. I wasn't saying I know what your beliefs are, I'm merely saying that you have them. And if you have a belief (whatever it is) about the way society should be run, then by definition you will have a political ideology.

chissitt wrote:

now why don't you put that expensive education of yours into gear and justify your beliefs, good luck btw.

You really don't need to go in full confrontation mode. I'm flattered you think I've had an expensive education but I went to a sh!thole comprehensive on the edge of Seacroft in Leeds.

Re: Why ? : Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:09 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

I think you've misunderstood me. I wasn't saying I know what your beliefs are, I'm merely saying that you have them. And if you have a belief (whatever it is) about the way society should be run, then by definition you will have a political ideology.

The only beliefs I have in this life is quite simple, behave yourself and lead a decent honest life, if that fits in with your ideological political theories then maybe that comprehensive school in Seacroft did a better job than you imagined.

Pumpetypump wrote:

You really don't need to go in full confrontation mode. I'm flattered you think I've had an expensive education but I went to a sh!thole comprehensive on the edge of Seacroft in Leeds.

Apologies for giving you the impression that I was in full confrontational mode as that was not my intention, as for being flattered then you shouldn't be, I was merely being a tad sarcastic over your attempt at psychoanalysing me leading me to believe that perhaps it wasn't such a waste of money, that or you were taking the pish, either way!