FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star455
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 25 201212 years188th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Jun 24 07:3219th Jun 24 15:51LINK
Milestone Posts
250
500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
3 Miles From HQ

Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:01 pm  
Following on from Beaumont's recent rant, there is a lot of talk and support for his breakaway competition. It amazes me how people think this is going to work, or even get any traction at all.

Will any clubs actually be willing to ostracise themselves from the RFL, and theoretically cut ties with the sport and all it's competitions? It would be highly unlikely that any clubs involved would be eligible for the Challenge Cup and 1895 Cup, possibly on a permanent basis.

I can't see any of the big clubs leaving the RFL anytime soon. The only ones that possibly would are the lower league teams struggling to make ends meet under the RFL guidance. And that wouldn't make for an attractive competition.

On the same lines, players who make the move would also likely find themselves ineligible for selection at international level. Would this cut down on the quality of players willing to play in the 'Ultimate Rugby' competition? I'm sure even the Leigh players are only contracted to play under the RFL banner, and could be released if the club moved to a new code.

Would the financial gains be any better for the clubs? That seems to be the only way to attract clubs to form a new splinter league. I understand that Beaumont has mentioned potential investors from the US and South Africa, but is this just talk? I can't see a new untested competition led by an irratic man with a vendetta, in a sport that is already struggling to turn a profit at top level, being an attractive investment option. Especially when they could invest in the sport already, with a plan in place by IMG to turn things around.

Would sponsors and TV broadcasters be interested in investing? Again, I'd suggest not. They aren't interested in Super League, do why invest more money into a competition that has no fan base at all? It would make no sense for them to do so.

So where would the financial incentive come from? The AB Sundecks profits? It just doesn't seem sustainable.

Bearing in mind this as all being spurred on by a controversial referee decision, where does Derek propose he is getting his officials from? Will he be writing the rule book himself and recruiting fresh officials from the Job Centre? Who is going train, mentor, and assess these officials? There is a whole experienced team behind RFL referees, and they still get it wrong.

Then there are the dozens of unseen positions needed for a professional sport. Everything from promotional teams to legal teams. All these will have to be funded, recruited, and instructed from scratch. This will likely take years to put in place if they want to be ready and looking professional before the first kick-off.

From every angle I look at it this is a non-starter.

What are your thoughts?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Administrator21064
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 01 199925 years185th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 14:2924th Apr 24 09:33LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
RLFANS HQ
Signature
Image
Administrator

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:09 pm  
it's got GB News written all over it.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach15750
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20 200519 years95th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 20:2027th Jun 24 20:09LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Listening to the reggae band, Jihad
Signature
"BOHICA"

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 4:56 pm  
A fool and his money.......
RankPostsTeam
Junior Player240No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 07 20231 year217th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 19:3626th Jun 24 20:40LINK
Milestone Posts
200
250
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:34 pm  
Will he pay his players this time? Only last time he spat his dummy out his players didn’t get paid.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11924
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 15 200717 years176th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 11:583rd Jun 24 01:02LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Signature
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

Frederick Douglas

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:54 pm  
The most easily offended fans in the league will be all over this.
It's clearly a ridiculous pipe dream from a massive gormclops.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1584
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 19 200321 years308th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Jun 24 22:249th Jun 24 08:43LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wigan
Signature
:CHEF:
<l>
_/\_

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:27 pm  
You've taken the drunken ramblings of a loudmouth far too seriously. Leigh aren't going anywhere, DB isn't going anywhere, this will never happen
Cokey 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner21399
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 19 201113 years57th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 14:4527th Jun 24 21:33LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Across The Universe....... Jai guru deva om - Nothings gonna change my world.
Signature
Image

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:49 pm  
--[ WW ]-- wrote:
You've taken the drunken ramblings of a loudmouth far too seriously. Leigh aren't going anywhere, DB isn't going anywhere, this will never happen


Well said WW, too many idiotic drunken folk on these forums take too much as gospel. :thumb:

woketards come to mind.
RankPostsTeam
Moderator39478
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 01 200222 years13th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 19:0827th Jun 24 12:06LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Moderator

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:11 pm  
Image

screw this, i'm gonna start my own super league, with black jack, and hookers
This post contains an image, if you are the copyright owner and would like this image removed then please contact support@rlfans.com
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3828
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 200519 years289th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
19th Jun 24 09:0029th Sep 23 13:31LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
In the seaside town ...that they forgot to bomb
Signature
Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, May & BORIS (W.T.F.)

It's Johnson!

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:31 pm  
Couldn't him & Bernie Gauch set up 'Conspiracy Rugby' League.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator12612
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 01 200717 years129th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Jun 24 18:0220th Jun 24 16:35LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leicestershire.
Signature
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Moderator

Re: Derek Beaumont's 'Ultimate Rugby' league : Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:47 pm  
Leeds_Luke wrote:
…but is this just talk?


Yes. For all the reasons you mention and probably a few others.
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 111 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to The Virtual Terrace


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
International
karetaker
9
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2226
Recent
Stadium and other issues
ash11
2307
Recent
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1615
Recent
Round 15 vs Leigh Leopards H
KaeruJim
164
Recent
Songs for the boys
hs98
13
Recent
Halifax v Whitehaven
bentleyman
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
48s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2226
53s
Todays Cup match v Wigan
Fantastic Mr
133
54s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9237
2m
Round 15 vs Leigh Leopards H
KaeruJim
164
3m
Songs for the boys
hs98
13
3m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
KaeruJim
185
4m
Halifax v Whitehaven
bentleyman
3
5m
Dons v Swinton Saturday 29/6/24 at Fev 630pm
Kick and cha
13
5m
Other Championship Clubs
lifelongfan
205
6m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1615
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
A good signing for the Robins
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
International
karetaker
9
TODAY
Halifax v Whitehaven
bentleyman
3
TODAY
Jayden Okunbor
ComeOnYouUll
20
TODAY
Kevin Sinfield event
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Red Devils appoint development manager in Ghana
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Leopards sign Newcastle Knights full back
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 Contains Spoilers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
David Armstrong For 2025
Jack Gaskell
17
TODAY
New Structure for 2025 Challenge Cup
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
273
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
409
Super League form rewarded as ..
656
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
618
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
591
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
637
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
908
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1019
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1147
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1350
Hull FC Get Second Win By Beat..
1048
Super Salford First Half Slays..
1271
England to play Samoa in autum..
1213
Wakefield Trinity Show No Merc..
2288
Wigan Warriors Dominate Challe..
2144
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 23rd Jun
SL 15 Salford20-18St.Helens
CH 12 Bradford38-4Doncaster
CH 12 Featherstone24-34York
CH 12 Sheffield30-21Widnes
CH 12 Swinton10-24Barrow
CH12 Wakefield46-24Halifax
CH 12 Whitehaven38-12Dewsbury
L1 12 Cornwall0-26Keighley
L1 12 Hunslet18-48Rochdale
L1 12 Newcastle4-42Crusaders
L1 12 Workington4-28Oldham
NRL 16 Wests48-24Canberra
Sat 22nd Jun
SL 15 Hull FC18-24Warrington
SL 15 Catalans22-18Huddersfield
CH 12 Batley0-36Toulouse
NRL 16 Sydney26-8Canterbury
NRL 16 Gold Coast66-6NZ Warriors
NRL 16 Souths14-0Manly
Fri 21st Jun
SL 15 Leeds18-10Leigh
SL 15 Wigan36-0LondonB
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 14 403 164 239 24
St.Helens 15 423 162 261 22
Hull KR 15 383 201 182 22
Warrington 15 358 213 145 20
Salford 15 295 288 7 20
Catalans 15 288 220 68 18
 
Leeds 15 274 270 4 16
Huddersfield 15 298 317 -19 12
Leigh 14 264 226 38 11
Castleford 15 238 429 -191 7
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 15 140 598 -458 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 12 450 142 308 24
Sheffield 12 336 207 129 18
Bradford 12 303 206 97 16
Widnes 12 299 221 78 15
Toulouse 11 312 174 138 14
Featherstone 12 330 263 67 12
 
York 13 275 275 0 10
Whitehaven 12 248 320 -72 10
Batley 12 181 270 -89 10
Barrow 11 203 303 -100 10
Doncaster 12 219 317 -98 9
Swinton 12 252 314 -62 8
Halifax 12 232 359 -127 8
Dewsbury 13 156 381 -225 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
International
karetaker
9
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2226
Recent
Stadium and other issues
ash11
2307
Recent
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1615
Recent
Round 15 vs Leigh Leopards H
KaeruJim
164
Recent
Songs for the boys
hs98
13
Recent
Halifax v Whitehaven
bentleyman
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
48s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
weaver93
2226
53s
Todays Cup match v Wigan
Fantastic Mr
133
54s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9237
2m
Round 15 vs Leigh Leopards H
KaeruJim
164
3m
Songs for the boys
hs98
13
3m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
KaeruJim
185
4m
Halifax v Whitehaven
bentleyman
3
5m
Dons v Swinton Saturday 29/6/24 at Fev 630pm
Kick and cha
13
5m
Other Championship Clubs
lifelongfan
205
6m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1615
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
A good signing for the Robins
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
International
karetaker
9
TODAY
Halifax v Whitehaven
bentleyman
3
TODAY
Jayden Okunbor
ComeOnYouUll
20
TODAY
Kevin Sinfield event
Wollo-Wollo-
1
TODAY
Red Devils appoint development manager in Ghana
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Leopards sign Newcastle Knights full back
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 Contains Spoilers
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
David Armstrong For 2025
Jack Gaskell
17
TODAY
New Structure for 2025 Challenge Cup
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
273
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
409
Super League form rewarded as ..
656
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
618
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
591
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
637
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
908
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1019
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1147
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1350
Hull FC Get Second Win By Beat..
1048
Super Salford First Half Slays..
1271
England to play Samoa in autum..
1213
Wakefield Trinity Show No Merc..
2288
Wigan Warriors Dominate Challe..
2144


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!