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: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:44 pm  
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if what ive heard today is true, then this debate can be put on ice till April!!!!!


Yep Press Conference at 21:19 :cry:
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Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.


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Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:49 pm  
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If Motu had put in a performace like that it would have been below his usual standard. Byrne was solid in defense but did nothing in attack.


Exactly. If that had been Tony playing instead of Byrne, the same criticisms would have been forthcoming from me, i.e. a lack of any sort of impact with the ball, a poor work-rate in bringing the ball out during exit sets and a complete lack of penetration on kick returns. I'd also be wondering why his technique on the ground had gone to poop, taking an age to get up and play the ball.

Conversely, there would have been much more made of the incredibly simple kick that Byrne fudged which put us under enormous pressure at a key time.

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What sticks in my mind is the first 4 or 5 games of last season where Motu Tony couldnt catch a bomb to save his life. Everytime the ball went up the whole stadium held its breath, closed it's eyes and said a prayer. Some people seem to have very short memories.


And some people's memories are complete fabrications. There was one game last year - for a spell of 20 minutes - in which Tony dropped a couple of kicks. Despite that, he was still one of our best players in that game against Harlequins. The only other dodgy spell he's had was the previous season against Wakey, again for a spell of around 20 minutes. Again, he was still one of our better players that day.

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As per my previous example, Washy playing 6 meant that when R Horne was fit he came back in because Washy wasnt playing well and wasnt a 6.


Washbrook was one of our better players last year and has as much claim to being a 6 as Byrne does to being a fullback.
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: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:52 pm  
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Washbrook was one of our better players last year and has as much claim to being a 6 as Byrne does to being a fullback.


Now you are talking rubbish. Ive understood your arguement for most of the previous things youve posted but that statement is wholly out of order to Todd Byrne and to Washy. Washy was one of our better players, when he wore 13. At 6 he was garbage.
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dave m wrote:
Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.


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Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:10 pm  
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Now you are talking rubbish. Ive understood your arguement for most of the previous things youve posted but that statement is wholly out of order to Todd Byrne and to Washy. Washy was one of our better players, when he wore 13. At 6 he was garbage.


I don't think you're remembering last season very well. Behind Berrigan and possibly Cusack, he was our best player.
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: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:14 pm  
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I don't think you're remembering last season very well. Behind Berrigan and possibly Cusack, he was our best player.


He did well but wasnt creative enough at 6.

in fact to quote someone that said something about another player recently

Which is what he'll offer every week. For me, that's not enough at this level, especially for a side that's not overly blessed with creativity.




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: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:21 pm  
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He did well but wasnt creative enough at 6.

He didn't do anything wrong though.

And in some people's eyes that should have guaranteed him the shirt for the foreseeable future. :wink:
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: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:26 pm  
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Is it even certain that Tony will be available for selection for the weekend?


I dont think he will to be honest.I saw him at the weekend and he was limping badly.
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: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:28 pm  
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I don't think you're remembering last season very well. Behind Berrigan and possibly Cusack, he was our best player.


Washy was second only to Berrigan last season imo.
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dave m wrote:
Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.


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Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:41 pm  
Hutchie wrote:
He did well but wasnt creative enough at 6.

in fact to quote someone that said something about another player recently





:wink:


:lol:

I don't disagree with that. I still think he was up there last year though, without being very creative, which probably shows why we didn't have a great season.
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