Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:43 am  

Surely alcohol fuelled violence, however significant, is only a part of the dynamic? It's the sense of entitlement elements of our fans hold in that they believe it's ok ( drunk or not) to act oafishly.Dont Know if it's a northern territorial RL thing but doesn't appear to happen in RU ( could have separate debate on that one!)
I'm no angel but language is at times cringeworthy but seems magnified on trips to London/Perpignan and not confined to youngsters.

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:52 am  

Good point by Kenty

What is also quite marked is that a lot of the time, the oafish behaviour is carried out by people old enough to know better!

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:31 pm  

Kenty wrote:

Surely alcohol fuelled violence, however significant, is only a part of the dynamic? It's the sense of entitlement elements of our fans hold in that they believe it's ok ( drunk or not) to act oafishly.Dont Know if it's a northern territorial RL thing but doesn't appear to happen in RU ( could have separate debate on that one!)
I'm no angel but language is at times cringeworthy but seems magnified on trips to London/Perpignan and not confined to youngsters.

Its not just R/L
Its starting again in football
Plenty of aggro on the tubes in London with rival fans and football fans abusing the public

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:05 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Its not just R/L
Its starting again in football
Plenty of aggro on the tubes in London with rival fans and football fans abusing the public

And yet they do not serve alcohol on the tube.

Lets ban pies, pasties and confectionery too.

If you can't go for 80 minutes without a pie then maybe you need to shed a few pounds eh?

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:03 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

There's a difference between the mosh pit at a gig and a stand full of families at a rugby league game.

My point was that for the idiots who go in mosh pits and sling £’s worth of beer onto unsuspecting people are probably the same idiots who do it at Rugby games. I was stood behind a “family” at Leeds recently and their adolescent sons were peeling labels of lager bottles and trying to through them into other peoples drinks. Not under the influence, just sodding annoying and their parents were laughing like I said, I blame Thatcher.

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:53 pm  

bonaire wrote:

Its not just R/L
Its starting again in football
Plenty of aggro on the tubes in London with rival fans and football fans abusing the public

It's never gone away in football. Just not been as well publicised.
Massive Police presence outside premier league games has just moved it to different areas of the Towns and Cities.

We all, as supporters of the game, have a duty to stand up and be counted.
When someone throws a glass or bottle, or anything else. When someone uses racist/abusive language, we should be pointing it/them out to the stewards.

I don't believe it when I hear things like, no one saw it or heard it. In this day and age it is nigh on impossible to do anything, without someone have caught it on camera.

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:34 pm  

Get tough on the idiots that can't handle their drink.

Identify. Name. Shame.
Get their faces in the local rag and on social media.
Get them banned from all grounds for 2 years.
Work in conjunction with the police, so if the police are given evidence of them entering a ground in that period, they can be prosecuted.

Public shaming will affect their work lives. They'll think twice.

As for banning alcohol - it would kill a lot of income and not tackle the issue completely.
A no drink zone family area would be nice, with strict rules about behaviour. The ground is big enough. Get some bouncy castles on the concourse behind the North Stand but block off access to the seating area. Encourage families to go on that area away from those that aren't quite as family friendly.

Develop a culture.

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:55 pm  

ive never understood the idea of banning things for the majority,because of a few louts.like the landlord in the old town pub,banning people wearing Christmas jumpers because a few drunks wearing them caused trouble.crazy.

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:16 pm  

fosdyke99 wrote:

ive never understood the idea of banning things for the majority,because of a few louts.like the landlord in the old town pub,banning people wearing Christmas jumpers because a few drunks wearing them caused trouble.crazy.

Anybody sporting a Christmas jumper needs an automatic prison sentence!

[Karen]

Re: Is it now time to ban alcohol in the stadiums at R/L gam : Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:20 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Anybody sporting a Christmas jumper needs an automatic prison sentence!