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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"As "austerity" measures have proved an utter and complete disaster across the whole of Europe, can someone give me at least a superficially plausible reason why anyone might expect such measures might ever work?
Osborne and his Eurochums remind me of Basil Fawlty giving his economy car a good thrashing, and to as much effect.'"
Things are not great in the UK, but have you seen how they are in France? |
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Austerity gone too far? No.
Same old trolling by the OP.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Austerity gone too far? No.
Same old trolling by the OP.'"
Hardly, he linked to a news report - you might not agree with it in which case say so, but its a valid news report by a valid news media outlet, he hasn't invented something to deliberately inflame a situation.
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| Quote The Video Ref="The Video Ref"Things are not great in the UK, but have you seen how they are in France?'"
Yes. I have close relatives in France. This answers my question in what respect, exactly, though? To recap:
"Can someone give me at least a superficially plausible reason why anyone might expect such measures might ever work?" |
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| Quote Dally="Dally"The British public clearly do not think austerity has gone far enough. Appparently, per a poll reported this morning 72% of Tory voters think politicians are reckless in spending taxpayer money, 69% of Lib Dem voters and a whopping 79% of Labour voters. When asked the question differently, only 19% thought they spent money wisely.
In essence, Labour have nowhere to go on this issue as the Tories are in step with public opinion.'"
Seeing as Labour are ahead in all the opinion polls it suggests the public trust Labour to spend taxpayers money best now and are starting to ask questions why the Tories are being reckless with things like Thatchers funeral. |
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Austerity gone too far? No...'"
Deep insight there.
Love the way you back it up with reasoned argument.
Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"...Same old trolling by the OP.'"
I see, so mentioning genuine stats about how the debt-to-GDP ratio has worsened is now trolling is it?
Dearie me. |
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Austerity gone too far? No.
Same old trolling by the OP.'"
Since you seem to have missed the following:
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Second – this is an ideal opportunity to make a larger reminder to some of our trolls that, in general, this has been a tad more civilised a place recently. So, a) let's keep that going. b) If any of you have nothing more to contribute than the same 'arguments', over and over, illustrating only that either you are incapable of understanding what has been posted in response previously or have no inclination to do so, then action will be taken. Such an approach contributes absolutely nothing of value to any discussion.'"
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Quote Ajw71="Mintball"He very kindly reposted a comment that I had made, in general, on another thread.
You have a choice.
Learn from it. Or you're history.
It's entirely up to you.'" |
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Ok I won't voice my opinion any more. I don't want to be banned or labelled a troll.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Ok I won't voice my opinion any more. I don't want to be banned or labelled a troll.'"
I'm sure you're clever enough to understand the difference between voicing an opinion and trolling in a manner that simply drives numerous threads down the same blind alleys. |
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Austerity gone too far? No.
Same old trolling by the OP.'"
Right ... so what's your opinion on the debt-to-GDP ratio?
What's your opinion on the continuation of the recession due to ignoring the effects of imposed-austerity on the economy?
If you are not trolling, you'll have some sort of reasoned argument for your thus-far-not-expressed opinion, let's hear what it is. |
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| Quote Dally="Dally"The British public clearly do not think austerity has gone far enough. Appparently, per a poll reported this morning 72% of Tory voters think politicians are reckless in spending taxpayer money, 69% of Lib Dem voters and a whopping 79% of Labour voters. When asked the question differently, only 19% thought they spent money wisely.
In essence, Labour have nowhere to go on this issue as the Tories are in step with public opinion.'"
Completely different issues. I think politicians are reckless spenders of taxpayer money, but also think the austerity measures are too severe, albeit in the wrong areas.
I don't think any political party has the ability to solve the UK deficit and debt problems without fear of losing votes or losing other politicians support - basically stemming from greed. To say "the Tories are in step with public opinion" as a conclusion to the statistics produced from this survey is completely laughable seen as Tories are politicians as well! If anything, as the Tories are in charge of the cheque book, it would suggest the opposite. Try to see past party politics! |
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"
"Can someone give me at least a superficially plausible reason why anyone might expect such measures might ever work?"'"
Spend more than earn = bad.
Earn more than spend = good.
That seems to be the basic concept behind it. But we all knew that anyway. |
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