YOUR country?



Are you The Queen or summat?



This country is no more yours than it is mine or any other citizen living here

There is more to worry about tearing this country apart than a strange article in the Daily Mail worrying about something that has happened for hundreds of years.

No, we've all worked out the blindingly obvious reasons why people might prefer to live amongst people with whom they feel they have more in common.

Yes, it is my country. I was born and raised here. That makes it my country. If you were born and raised here, it is your country too.





No, but that is a very childish statement.

First of all I said fracturing and secondly I read about the same issue in the Sunday Times today, as I mentioned in my first post on this thread.

No, it makes it the country you were born and raised in and currently live in (presumably). It is no more your country than any other citizen, whether they were born and raised her or simply came and decided to stay.



You are aware that your xenophobia is showing?

In the Godless world of most on here they love the term "evolution." So, why then have races evolved with quite different attributes which are linked to the geographical areas to which they "belong"? Animals are generally territorial and need to understand their territory to survive. Humans are the same and that explains in large part the amount of time they spend at war. So, I think he has a valid point about when he refers to "my country." That's also why so many people are concerned and dismayed about mass immigration - often the number one issue when they speak to their MP - because alot of people do not feel it is "their" country anymore. I think you'll also find the main unspoken reason why white folk have been moving out of cities is to try to turn back the clock and live with folk like them in places that seem still to be "their" own country.



Of course, in the PC world all that would be heresy.

It was an article in a publication that frequently lies, that profits from the sexualisation of underage girls, and that has an editorial policy of shocking its readers on a daily basis.



And you want me to take it seriously when it publishes another sensationalist piece of scaremongering with no context whatsoever? And you think that my stating something directly contradicts (with inconvenient facts) some of what has been spouted here is of no relevance?



And the [iSunday Times[/i is a Murdoch paper that is also prepared to publish lies when the truth of a story doesn't match its agenda. And I do have the proof of that, and the previous assertion re the [iMail[/i.



The 'trend' is not new and it is not limited to ethnicity/religion. Demographics change over time. This is a fact.

Last week the papers said there were going to be 10 million Bulgarian and Romanians coming over to the UK to claim benefits. I would have thought they would be white (even if they are a bit swarthy and dark featured, some of them). So the Daily Mail readers can relax that their country isn't being turned black.

It must be awful turmoil inside your head.



Has it not occurred to you that "white folk" (Jews, Huguenots, Dutch, French, Italian etc, etc) have been arriving in Britain into the cheaper areas for centuries and, as they became more affluent, have moved out into more leafy suburbs?

Has it not occurred to you that many non-white "folks" do the same?



I guess not, you probably still think of different colours of people as different species.

And it's down to those eastern Europeans that some Catholic churches in London have even been able to keep their doors open. Which point [ishould[/i confuse a few people.















Absolutely. And The whole Whitechapel area of east London is that situation in a nutshell. In the last few years, the demographic has started altering – again – with the arrival of more eastern Europeans. You see it perhaps most obviously in the opening of new shops; Russian and Polish food stores. Mind, I can get matjes herring and proper little pickled cucumbers now.





FWIW, I think that there are real discussion that need to be had about immigration, but as the situation with Mary Beard, and the abuse she has faced, illustrate, that's far from easy.



You may remember, a couple of years ago, I tried to start just such a discussion.IIRC, just two people responded – yourself and Mr Chicken. So I'm a tad cynical about how much some people really want to discuss it in anything other than an hysterical manner.

That's not the issue under discussion.



If you want to see think what alot of "middle England" think look at the readers' comments under the DM's article!