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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Well, according to Greece, 'nobody negotiates with the EU''"
Who’d be stupided enough to try and negotiate from weakness...
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Come on, we are all "part of it" by electing a government on the "austerity ticket".
We may not all have voted for the Tories but, within a democracy "we" are all responsible for it.
Would decent people emigrating help the situation or, reduce the need for food banks ? NO
We should all be equally embarrased and ashamed that there has been such an increase in the need for people to have to use food banks.
The rolling out of Universal Credit an its shocking implementation of this system is downright appalling and to ask people with very little money to manage on ZERO income for 6,8,10 weeks is a fecking disgrace and WE should all be appalled.'"
Well take to the streets of London and protest. Nothing freaks the establishment like a large scale, unruly demo. Macron has caved in in France. Maggie caved in over poll tax.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Well take to the streets of London and protest. Nothing freaks the establishment like a large scale, unruly demo. Macron has caved in in France. Maggie caved in over poll tax.'"
Unfortunately (or fortunately), there are only a few thousand people affected by the Universal Credit roll out, therefore, there are unlikely to be mass protests but, that doesn't make it right.
The poll tax affected pretty much everyone (although a few were in fact better off) can you spot the difference. 
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"I voted to leave the EU, however I've now changed my mind. I think the EU and our country is in need of major reforms, and Brexit was an opportunity to to deliver that change on both fronts, but instead of approaching this as an opportunity, all involved have approached this whole thing as a damage limitation exercise where we end up with a deal where even the people who negotiated it don't want it. The EU have shown themselves to be the greedy bullies that they always have been, and our government have shown themselves to be the bumbling baffoons they've always, and our democracy has become a shambles, and our government has become a diplomatic laughing stock.'" its a shame you feel that now that you think we'd be better now staying in the EU because you've just given the reason to leave, I voted to leave simply because I want our country to be self governing and where the leader is accountable rather than employed and can not be removed, your right in saying the EU have become greedy the sooner we are out the better so we can rebuild
if there is another referendum it will question the democratic vote simple as and any political decision will be arguably questionable until the mob gets its way, we will might as well be state run
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen" The EU have shown themselves to be the greedy bullies '"
Really? We voted to leave on a tide of anti-European vitriol & abuse. We now want to keep the best bits & are surprised & offended when the EU stand by their principles. So we spew out more anti-European & personal vitriol & abuse.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Unfortunately (or fortunately), there are only a few thousand people affected by the Universal Credit roll out, therefore, there are unlikely to be mass protests but, that doesn't make it right.
The poll tax affected pretty much everyone (although a few were in fact better off) can you spot the difference.
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My assumption was that you were not necessarily directly affected but outraged. If that's the case you could do something about it rather than simply tapping on a keyboard to pretend you care.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"My assumption was that you were not necessarily directly affected but outraged. If that's the case you could do something about it rather than simply tapping on a keyboard to pretend you care.'"
Oh, I get it, this is no longer a forum for expressing views on certain subjects, it no a platform to provoke a march against government policy ??
If there is a march/protest against Universal Credit, you may well see me there. 
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| Quote snowie="snowie"I voted to leave simply because I want our country to be self governing and where the leader is accountable rather than employed and can not be removed, '"
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our health system.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our social services.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our education system.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our public transport system.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our public utilities.
This Government, not the EU, are destroying our police & armed forces.
FYI we do not elect our own PM.
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| Quote FYI we do not elect our own PM.'"
Compared to how much say we get in selecting our all-powerful and non-removable EU Presidents, we practically hand-pick our PMs and drop them off at No.10 with a packed lunch.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Compared to how much say we get in selecting our all-powerful and non-removable EU Presidents, we practically hand-pick our PMs and drop them off at No.10 with a packed lunch.'"
How are they non-removable?
MEP’s and governments of the 28 put them in place. Quite democratic.
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"How are they non-removable?
MEP’s and governments of the 28 put them in place. Quite democratic.'"
Read about Martin selmayr, also the appointment of the drunkard , in spite of protests from several countries. Including David Cameron. Note that the EU have threatened Italy with a heavy fine ,because they don’t approve of the Italian governments budget. Democratic, definitely not.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our health system.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our social services.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our education system.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our public transport system.
This Government, not the EU, has destroyed our public utilities.
This Government, not the EU, are destroying our police & armed forces.
FYI we do not elect our own PM.'"
Reading the guardian again ?. Definitely not good for your health.
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