OTOH if even for 77 murders you can get out in 10 years - is that surprising? I bet if the maximum prison term in England was 24 hours, we'd have the smallest prison pop in the world

It also means every five years the relatives have it all dragged up again as they also consider the remote possibility he may be released.



The likes of Jon Wessel-Aas can tweet what they like but I bet they have not considered that.



I will readily accept the the likes of Norway and Sweden generally have better penal systems that we do but this five year review thing says to me those systems aren't well suited to dealing with the aftermath of a crime like this.

I'd suggest that few countries' judicial systems are "suited to dealing with the aftermath of a crime like this".



And you only make bad law if you make law on the basis of a single case.

Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"My point was on the minimum sentence. The rest of it is all just their system, but let's say he did repent, regret, whatever, and was totally reformed, and would never do the same again, even so, in my opinion, 10 years for shooting 77 people dead is nowhere near enough. Given the Norwegian (!) maximum is 21 years - what do you have to do to be told that is what you must serve? I would have thought that randomly killing dozens of innocent people to protest at government policy would be a banker for being told, "Soz, that's a s bad as it gets, you win the 21 year full stretch".'" You have to kill Euronymous and burn down four wooden churches ala Varg Vikernes (although he got let out after 16 years on parole). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes

Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"My point was on the minimum sentence. The rest of it is all just their system, but let's say he did repent, regret, whatever, and was totally reformed, and would never do the same again, even so, in my opinion, 10 years for shooting 77 people dead is nowhere near enough. Given the Norwegian (!) maximum is 21 years - what do you have to do to be told that is what you must serve? I would have thought that randomly killing dozens of innocent people to protest at government policy would be a banker for being told, "Soz, that's a s bad as it gets, you win the 21 year full stretch".'" You have to kill Euronymous and burn down four wooden churches ala Varg Vikernes (although he got let out after 16 years on parole). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varg_Vikernes

I confess to knowing next to nothing about their legal system, but from what I have read in the papers Breivik is going to do 21 years (the maximum) and then some, at the Court's discretion.



There is no realistic possibility this guy is going to be out and about in 10 years.

eeeeeeeeeeeeer he is a self confessed child killer. only option available is to extinguish his own life. no loss to anyone except the people who have his own warped sense of life.



" my only regret is I never killed more."

Except it clearly is not the "only option".



As illustrated by what has actually happened.

Do you reject the possibility that he might change his mind in the future and be truly sorry for what he has done?