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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"How do you explain the significant % of gay men that have very feminine traits - high voices, very slim bodies effeminate mannerisms is that all learned/copied?'"
 .....I know, its like when these 'celebs' like Will Young, Nick Grimshaw, that chap from Steps and there have been many more, decide to 'come out' and the general reaction of most people is '...and he hadn't come out already?' type of thing.
I can't believe these feminine traits are learned or copied - I recall going to school with a lad who was extremely camp, even at junior school age, and it came as no shock years later when he 'revealed' he was gay....Most of us used to tell him that at school in a typical kids-at-school sort of way.... 
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"How do you explain the significant % of gay men that have very feminine traits - high voices, very slim bodies effeminate mannerisms is that all learned/copied?'"
Probably the same way that some women are quite 'masculine'.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Could there perhaps be a multiplicity of "causes"?'"
You still don't seem to have grasped the differences between gender, sex and sexuality yet
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"How do you explain the significant % of gay men that have very feminine traits - high voices, very slim bodies effeminate mannerisms is that all learned/copied?'"
Nor do you
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| So, getting back to the topic, is the Pope gay?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"So, getting back to the topic, is the Pope gay?'"
I'll send him an email.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Nor do you'"
Homosexuality and its predisposed triggers - yet another area in which you think you are an expert?
Is there no end to the subjects in which you have superior knowledge?
Thankfully most on here can see - 'emperors new clothes'/empty jacket!!
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"I'll send him an email.'"
You're sooo 20th century. You should tweet him.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Could there perhaps be a multiplicity of "causes"?'"
Well, of course there "could" but that's not the same as "we know there are".
For the good of this thread, if you want to discuss homosexuality (and you certainly manage to do so in a thread of almost any topic), why not start another thread?
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"I'll send him an email.'"
A he-male?
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"Homosexuality and its predisposed triggers - yet another area in which you think you are an expert?
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TBF it was you, not him, who was stating as a fact that it is all down to "homosexual genes":
Quote Sal Paradise="You"Does anyone really believe if you have homosexual genes you will refrain from having a same sex physical relationship because Francis pontificates'"
When challenged about this, you replied indicating that you were reinforced in your opinion that there are "homosexual genes" because you said:
Quote Sal Paradise"How do you explain the significant % of gay men that have very feminine traits - high voices, very slim bodies effeminate mannerisms is that all learned/copied?"'"
In other words you were clearly expressing the view that these traits are NOT learned/copied but are down to "homosexual genes".
I don't think it is definite that there isn't, and indeed it makes reasonable sense to theorize that there may be some connection with a genetic component, but your statement that "homosexual genes" exist is not an established scientific fact.
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"How do you explain the significant % of gay men that have very feminine traits - high voices, very slim bodies effeminate mannerisms is that all learned/copied?'"
I don't and can't explain that.
I can postulate possibilities (from a postion of lack of knowledge) with the best of 'em but I am not in a position to explain.
How do you explain the %age of heterosexual men who display similar characteristics?
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