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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken""under the whip hand" was rather an unfortunate remark to make with regard to racism and imperialism wasn't it ?'"
You're cotton-picking correct.
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| The Sunday Times included a piece on this too - 'white flight' is the name given to the phenomenon. The data was taken from the latest census but I remember watching a Channel 4 documentary a couple of years ago on the same phenomenon which has occurred in either Burnley or Blackburn (I always get those two towns mixed up). In whichever town it was, there has developed quite a clear demarkation line between (in the Lancashire town's case) the Asian community and the white British community, whereas in the London boroughs non-white British people have moved out of the centre either into neighbouring towns or the edges of the borough concerned. In London it would appear that the most notable reduction in white British people is in the borough of Redbridge where the number of white British people fell by 40,844 within a decade, which I think by anyone's standard is quite a fall.
Apparently the Americans label this phenomenon 'sundown segregation': people mix in shops, on public transport and in the workplace but if you followed people home you would see they are returning to areas which are heavily segregated.
I remember going to watch Saints play the Broncos in London at the end of 2011 and being surprised at how marked the changes were as we drove through different boroughs.
I think it's a shame myself. I'm not sure anyone benefits by this development.
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| I think the pertinent question that no one wants to confront is why do people want to and where they can choose to segregate?
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| And in other news, some areas of London are seeing an increase in young, middle-class people moving [iin[/i, in order to enjoy the trendy lifestyle and the close proximity to all that the capital offers by way of entertainment etc.
And this is substantially changing areas that were once poor and/or working class into one where, not least, the cost of housing has risen dramatically.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"And in other news, some areas of London are seeing an increase in young, middle-class people moving [iin[/i, in order to enjoy the trendy lifestyle and the close proximity to all that the capital offers by way of entertainment etc.
And this is substantially changing areas that were once poor and/or working class into one where, not least, the cost of housing has risen dramatically.'"
Thats all well and good but how is it going to sell newspapers to people who want to feel down-trodden in "their own" country ?
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"And in other news, some areas of London are seeing an increase in young, middle-class people moving [iin[/i, in order to enjoy the trendy lifestyle and the close proximity to all that the capital offers by way of entertainment etc.'"
Except that wasn't the subject of the article, either the one in the link or the one I read in the Sunday Times today. I would imagine both have been written simply because of the census results filtering through, which have shown a trend in certain areas of the country.
Are you not bothered that this trend is occurring in certain areas?
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Thats all well and good but how is it going to sell newspapers to people who want to feel down-trodden in "their own" country ?'"
They should just revert to the old adage: "If you want a n[ii[/igger for a neighbour, vote Labour"
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"
Are you not bothered that this trend is occurring in certain areas?'"
Are you and if so why?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"They should just revert to the old adage: "If you want a n[ii[/igger for a neighbour, vote Labour"'"
That's completely unnecessary.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Are you and if so why?'"
Yes I am bothered and I am bothered because I don't like the idea of my country becoming fractured.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Yes I am bothered and I am bothered because I don't like the idea of my country becoming fractured.'"
YOUR country?
Are you The Queen or summat?
This country is no more yours than it is mine or any other citizen living here
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Yes I am bothered and I am bothered because I don't like the idea of my country becoming fractured.'"
There is more to worry about tearing this country apart than a strange article in the Daily Mail worrying about something that has happened for hundreds of years.
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