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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"
Which of course raises (again) the entire question of why society as a whole seems to regard faith in such a positive light. I confess, I really don't know the answer to that.
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I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some e doesn't mean all religious people think the same.
In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and all the good things religion actually does. Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc. You just see all the bad things.
I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.
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| Quote McLaren_Field="McLaren_Field"...the funniest part being when the Christian organisations speak of this country being anti-Christian and of increasing criticism of their organisations in media and by the public.
Durrr!
They've not exactly covered themselves in glory these past couple of decades, especially the Catholic orders and they still expect to get good PR "just because" ???'"
I do not how anyone in good consience can be a practicing catholic. If this were a non religious organisation the police would be battering down their doors and arresting a good proportion of it's hierarchy.
In spite of what Jesus was supposed to have said about helping the poor, they surround themselves ostentatious wealth in the form of gold and art among other things then lecture about poverty and the virtues of suffering in this life. Any preacher with more than one pair shoes is a hypocrite. They also neatly airbrush parts of scripture they don't agree with such as the "maketh unto thee no graven images" part.
Cue the OP to denounce them as apostates.
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| Religion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some poop doesn't mean all religious people think the same.
In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and all the good things religion actually does. =#FF0000Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc. You just see all the bad things.
I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.'"
All can and have been done without religion.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Religion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'.'"
I don't think he's thought it through.
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Mother Teresa eh? 
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Mother Teresa eh? 
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"Quote Sheldon="Ajw71"I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some poop doesn't mean all religious people think the same.
In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and all the good things religion actually does. =#FF0000Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc. You just see all the bad things.
I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.'"
All can and have been done without religion.'"
If we took our morality from religion, we'd be stoning rape victims, shagging our immediate families and keeping slaves.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some poop doesn't mean all religious people think the same.
In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and [uall the good things religion actually does. Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc.[/u You just see all the bad things.
I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.'"
I like to think I manage to do all of those things, but I'm not religious or feel the need to be to do any of those things. Its called leading a moral life.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"I'm not religious but because a few nutters come on your forum and spout some poop doesn't mean all religious people think the same.
In your hate for religion you don't see the balanced argument and all the good things religion actually does. Creating a moral code / sense of community / helping others etc. You just see all the bad things.
I'm not religious but your hatred of everything religious just comes across as a bitter unbalanced viewpoint.'"
What the other two said plus there are a great many circustances where religions are actively harming people and at the top of that list you would have to put the Catholic Church.
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Quote Rock God X="Rock God X":20vln6muReligion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'.'" the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes
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Quote Rock God X="Rock God X":20vln6muReligion most assuredly does not 'create a moral code'.'" the Five Precepts and the Noble Eightfold Path of Buddhism (see Śīla); the ancient Egyptian code of Ma'at; the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity; the Quran of Islam; Judaism's Noahide Law; and the yamas and niyama of the Hindu scriptures.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality#Moral_codes
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| Quote Hull White Star="Hull White Star"I like to think I manage to do all of those things, but I'm not religious or feel the need to be to do any of those things. Its called leading a moral life.'"
Yes but that doesn't mean other people didn't use religion to base their moral values.
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