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| I did think that we had recruited well. However so have most other teams and this league is always very competitive. We might be short of some class and unpredictability. We are short on a vocal leader and just hope some step forward.
Need to see if our halves can run the game as we have been very spoilt having had Muzza for so long.
Most teams can beat each other on the day and only those with a rich backer generally are always near the top.
Can`t wait to see how we go next weekend.
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay" I believe our 1st 17 are as good as any in the Championship this time. '"
Hmm. Jot down the first choice 17 of Toulouse, Fev and probably York too, and tell me how many of the Fax 17 you think would get in to those teams. You'll probably get as far as Brandon Moore, maybe Rawsthorne too, and that will be it.
Not hvaing a go, just being honest as I don't think Fax have the resources to attract the same calibre of players as the big three. I don't think Grix has been very impressive as a coach so far but to suggest he's been dealt an equal hand to the likely top two or three teams isn't accurate imo.
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| hello phantom i would also add fairbank,spinger,murrey wouldnt look out of place in those teams you mention i also think those sides are better coached witch always helps make players look better
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| Quote The Phantom Horseman="The Phantom Horseman"Hmm. Jot down the first choice 17 of Toulouse, Fev and probably York too, and tell me how many of the Fax 17 you think would get in to those teams. You'll probably get as far as Brandon Moore, maybe Rawsthorne too, and that will be it.
Not hvaing a go, just being honest as I don't think Fax have the resources to attract the same calibre of players as the big three. I don't think Grix has been very impressive as a coach so far but to suggest he's been dealt an equal hand to the likely top two or three teams isn't accurate imo.'"
The big three! 
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| Quote The Phantom Horseman="The Phantom Horseman"Hmm. Jot down the first choice 17 of Toulouse, Fev and probably York too, and tell me how many of the Fax 17 you think would get in to those teams. You'll probably get as far as Brandon Moore, maybe Rawsthorne too, and that will be it.
Not hvaing a go, just being honest as I don't think Fax have the resources to attract the same calibre of players as the big three. I don't think Grix has been very impressive as a coach so far but to suggest he's been dealt an equal hand to the likely top two or three teams isn't accurate imo.'"
I reckon maybe 5 or 6 would but the key thing is that only Moore would be a stand out. All that said its why its vital we play as a team this year to make up those differences in quality. On the run out against Batley we looked anything like a team and we can use the excuse that the team hasn't been together for too long but that would be unfair on Batley. The fact is the team badly underperformed and people are going to call them out for it.
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay"The big three!
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There's nowt like the modesty, graciousness and benevolence of Fev fans
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| [list[/list:u Quote Sideshow Bob="Sideshow Bob"There's nowt like the modesty, graciousness and benevolence of Fev fans'"
The new bulls!  It's probably their on going partnership with the Rhinos that's going to their heads. 
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| Just remember also sheffield had knocked us out the cup last season. I do not think Grix is the man for the job no experience what so ever as off yet
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| Quote hooligan27="hooligan27"Just remember also sheffield had knocked us out the cup last season. I do not think Grix is the man for the job no experience what so ever as off yet'"
It would appear,results wise, that he isn't. Nonetheless he's the man in charge now and as such we should all get behind him. It's his team now and it's up to him to get the best out of the excellent players he has to chose from. We shall see. Up The Fax! 
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay"The big three!
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Perhaps not the best choice of words, but Toulouse, Fev and York clearly have had more money to spend and it shows in their squads.
Doesn't mean other teams can't beat them or even finish above them in the league, but in terms of the squads they have been able to assemble, three teams have clearly been in a more advantageous position. I'm not sure that's a particularly controversial thing to say.
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| Quote terry silver="terry silver"hello phantom i would also add fairbank,spinger,murrey wouldnt look out of place in those teams you mention i also think those sides are better coached witch always helps make players look better'"
Yes, those three would all be in contention for a place, they're all good players. Think you could argue either way whether they would get in the 17 at Toulouse or Fev.
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| Quote Sideshow Bob="Sideshow Bob"There's nowt like the modesty, graciousness and benevolence of Fev fans'"
I mentioned the big three, not the big one, it's got nothing to do with being immodest or graceless. My point was very clear that I don't think Halifax have had the same resources to build their squad. Do you think I am wrong?
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay"[list[/list:uThe new bulls!
It's probably their on going partnership with the Rhinos that's going to their heads.
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No DR this year, try to keep up! And most Fev fans were as against the concept of DR as you were.
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| Quote The Phantom Horseman="The Phantom Horseman"Perhaps not the best choice of words, but Toulouse, Fev and York clearly have had more money to spend and it shows in their squads.
Doesn't mean other teams can't beat them or even finish above them in the league, but in terms of the squads they have been able to assemble, three teams have clearly been in a more advantageous position. I'm not sure that's a particularly controversial thing to say.'"
And to be fair to T, F and Y behind the money and squads there has been a massive amount of work going on to get the cash in and in many other areas to get them where they are.
No freebies just hard work from the top down as with a lot of other clubs which for me means a great comp with some cracking games for us all to enjoy all throughout the year.
I’m sure it will be the best for a long time.
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| Quote The Phantom Horseman="The Phantom Horseman"I mentioned the big three, not the big one, it's got nothing to do with being immodest or graceless. My point was very clear that I don't think Halifax have had the same resources to build their squad. Do you think I am wrong?'"
Nothing to do specifically with your Big 3 comment, more to do with the way Fev fans have been over the last 10 years or so whenever you get a little success. Bit like the year you had champions emblazed on your kit before you'd won the grand final (which you lost lol) 
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| Quote Sideshow Bob="Sideshow Bob"Nothing to do specifically with your Big 3 comment, more to do with the way Fev fans have been over the last 10 years or so whenever you get a little success. Bit like the year you had champions emblazed on your kit before you'd won the grand final (which you lost lol)
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"Fev fans" - all of them or a few vociferous ones on social media (and yes there certainly are some)?
Every club has a few mouthy fans who either get full of themselves when they do well, or get jealous and bitchy when other clubs do better than them.
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| out of interest what did you make of james harrison ,brad day, dane chisholm before they signed for fev they have all become very good players for you but at there previous clubs they didnt show that kind of form i wouldnt of wanted any of them at fax but now would be more than happy with all 3
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| Quote The Phantom Horseman="The Phantom Horseman""Fev fans" - all of them or a few vociferous ones on social media (and yes there certainly are some)?
Every club has a few mouthy fans who either get full of themselves when they do well, or get jealous and bitchy when other clubs do better than them.'"
Soooo.... it was a couple of Fans which had Champions printed on the shirts, thanks for letting us know
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| Quote terry silver="terry silver"out of interest what did you make of james harrison ,brad day, dane chisholm before they signed for fev they have all become very good players for you but at there previous clubs they didnt show that kind of form i wouldnt of wanted any of them at fax but now would be more than happy with all 3'"
Batley fans will tell you that Day and Harrison were good players at the Mount and they are right, they both won player of the season awards the last year they were there I think. I think they have both progressed since joining Fev but it's not like they have improved out of nowhere.
Chisholm just wasn't at the right place at Bradford, Kear is a good coach but they are like chalk and cheese. He seems much happier at Fev, he's a bit inconsistent like all half backs at this level but he does loads of good things for us.
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| Quote Sideshow Bob="Sideshow Bob"Soooo.... it was a couple of Fans which had Champions printed on the shirts, thanks for letting us know'"
I can't even remember this and presumably you're talking about 10 years ago so rather than clinging to this maybe it's time to let it go?
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| having watched both day and harrison at batley i dont think either were any where near as good as they are now the reason i ask is you say halifax cant attract the same caliber of players as featherstone i see these 3 players as some of your best players but dont you think we could attract a player like chisholm who was on is outers at bradford or the other 2 day and harrison who where playing for a struggling batley side if i remember correctly halifax finished in the top 4 when you signed day and harrison so we would have been able to afford them
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| Most players go where the most brass is.
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| Quote Hudd-Shay="Hudd-Shay"Most players go where the most brass is.'"
Very true Pete , my prediction though is Fev, Toulouse , York , and London , not very imaginative , I also think we will struggle , I will be happy to stay up .Charlie knows .
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| Quote The Charlie Caroli="The Charlie Caroli"Very true Pete , my prediction though is Fev, Toulouse , York , and London , not very imaginative , I also think we will struggle , I will be happy to stay up .Charlie knows .'"
...................NOWT!  Welcome back Mr Caroli! 
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| Quote The Phantom Horseman="The Phantom Horseman"Batley fans will tell you that Day and Harrison were good players at the Mount and they are right, they both won player of the season awards the last year they were there I think. I think they have both progressed since joining Fev but it's not like they have improved out of nowhere.
Chisholm just wasn't at the right place at Bradford, Kear is a good coach but they are like chalk and cheese. He seems much happier at Fev, he's a bit inconsistent like all half backs at this level but he does loads of good things for us.'"
Yes I did! They were both outstanding players and I am delighted to see them continue to progress
Harrison was rejected by Bradford and we took him on and he really began to develop. Day is one of the Championship's most underrated players and is a bit of a beast!
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