Depends on the reason why the penalty as been given.

Laying on is trivial compared to a swinging arm.



I'll leave it to you to sift through reasons given for penalties.

I think it is fair to say Morley in a GB shirt is a hero, he is a tough, no nonsense british prop that has mellowed slightly as he as aged! the fact of the matter is he oftern is overcome by the red mist and allows his judgement to be swayed by his aggression. i have no real problem with the challenge saturday night, yes it was late, but reckles...IMO no!



there have been far worse, and i think we can all admit that.



i have no doubt if you were all to log onto castigers.com tomorrow and read that Adrian Morely had signed for us, whilst not liking his loiner herritage you would all be over the moon! i don't rememebr a game where morely has been bullied, i could name dozens where the entire cas pack have!!!

If you'd like to know the reasons for the penalties I'd suggest you do some research yourself.



My reason for mentioning Westerman was in order to draw an issue to the point you have made, in that unless you are aware of the reason for giving away penalties then the fact that Morley is joint top of the penalty chart is irrelevant.



I thank you for supporting my point, inadvertantly as I'm sure it was.

Cant be a**ed

Don't rise to him.

ok.

I can assure you I'm not trying to get a rise out of anybody. Please feel free to point out any of my posts that could be classed as a wind up.



I'm adding my thoughts to a discussion on an open forum. It's such a shame your incapable of doing the same.

Yeah,that's why he was given a "not guilty" verdict!

Instead of making a snide remark watch the game with approx 31 minutes on the clock and have a look at Mathers throwing himself on the floor and getting a penalty for it and tell me it was fair. Why would I have anything against a player who like many at Wigan under Noble had flaws in his game which were not addressed by the coach? The reason I mentioned him was that in the most recent game he was the most obvious example. Typical Warrington fan trying to be clever and totally missing the point.

Deary me. With that last sentence you've just proven your complete biased against Warrington.



I haven't seen the incident and if I still had a copy of the match I can assure you I would watch it. Play acting is something I can't stand within football or rugby, along with people moaning to the ref. A trait of Lee Briers that really annoys me..



Now is there any chance you can stop bringing your anti-warrington views and possible keep this thread on track.

It is however the mark of a player that has an issue with discipline. I wonder how many are for foul play and how many are for technical offences.

You had a go at me for mentioning Mathers, I told you the incident and you can't recall it yet you're arguing with me about it, whats all that about?



You wrote

"Amazing. A Wigan fan with a gripe against Mathers." and your signature says "Pitying bitter Wigan fans since 1978" and I'm biased against Warrington? yet I'm biased against Warrington, total hypocrite. The only reason I wrote the last sentence was because of what you said sorry if that wasn't clear enough for you. Some of my best friends are Warrington fans and they are very knowledgeable about rugby and I enjoy the banter with them, I want the quality of Rugby to be as high as possible, it was a bit dull last year I though and the more teams that improve, including Warrington the better. If I was commenting on the subject of another club I'd appear biased against them more than likely but to make a judgment of bias based on 2 posts is a bit rich.



Anyway back onto the thread, Carvell and Morley are very lucky indeed not to get banned, especially Morley in my opinion but I'd rather see them play against Wigan because they are both great players and I don't want the quality of the game to be compromised.