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| I'd imagine we'd want to get it sorted fairly quickly. I know we're only halfway through this season, but there are a few recruitment decisions to be made for next season, and we've shown in the last year or so that we have been able to move on contracted players to create space. Rowley would have an edge in having strong views about the quality (or otherwise) or our current squad, but Arthur might be an attraction for NRL players.
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| According to Aussie Media, Arthur has also had conversations about coaching the new NRL expansion team, likely based out of Perth. His partner is originally from Perth too.
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"
amazing how some still make excuses for him though'"
What amazes me is that some still have the knives out for him even though he's now gone, move on, start sharpening them for the next mistake....
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| I don’t think RS would be gone now without fan pressure. The club seemed reluctant to sack him. Been mixed messages about his performance from players but overall he seems to have been popular internally.
I do think we’re ready for another voice and approach personally though.
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| I reckon the longer we wait for the club to announce a new coach, the less likely it will be Rowley. It's still early days in the process, as I'm sure the club would have been fully focussed on last Friday and not wanted any distraction. If it is to be PR, you'd think it would be a pretty straight forward negotiation, given Salford allowed him to talk to Hull a few weeks back, and we could expect an announcement this week. This is assuming he'd be interested in the job, of course. If it gets to Thursday and we still haven't herd anything, my money is on Arthur/NRL candidate. But who knows?
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| It may be Rowley, it may be Arthur, it may be someone else. At this stage, whoever it might be, I think the key thing is I trust Blease to make the appointment far more than GH.
Arthur is getting his name out there, but ultimately if it's an NRL expansion team, he'll likely be waiting until 2027 to actually be coaching again.
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| I wouldn't be terribly bothered if it is an NRL coach and they only stayed for two years.
Holbrook turned Saints round pretty sharpish and Wigan are still benefitting from Michael Maguires influence years on.
The right coach will be able to put in place the step / keys we need to be successful, Weve become to accustomed to giving leeway to "projects" that are never finished and excuses rolled out. With Blease now overseeing the playing side Im confident that he'll be able to handle the nitty gritty and setting the tone both ethos and recruitment to leave the coach to concentrate on just that, coaching.
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| Quote Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"I wouldn't be terribly bothered if it is an NRL coach and they only stayed for two years.
Holbrook turned Saints round pretty sharpish and Wigan are still benefitting from Michael Maguires influence years on.
The right coach will be able to put in place the step / keys we need to be successful, Weve become to accustomed to giving leeway to "projects" that are never finished and excuses rolled out. With Blease now overseeing the playing side Im confident that he'll be able to handle the nitty gritty and setting the tone both ethos and recruitment to leave the coach to concentrate on just that, coaching.'"
Yes if Arthur has Perth lined up for 2027, he's the kind of guy who will probably need to keep his hand in meantime.
Leeds is a good opportunity or a poisoned chalice whichever way you look at it - but what we do have is a lot of junior talent coming through, which I think would greatly appeal to Arthur. Rowley also.
Thing with Blease leading this is that he might make the appointment and consider different candidates than GH would, but if it comes down to paying Arthur £400k per year to get him, will GH and the board back that?
I don't know but I reckon Arthur would cost around double whatever they were paying Smith, and we've also taken on Blease's salary. We also need cash to go after a couple of really good overseas players IMO, and use the Marquee allowance. If we're serious about winning again we're going to have to stop trying to do it on a shoestring.
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| I get the feeling it will not be Rowley, but we will have to wait and see.
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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"Yes if Arthur has Perth lined up for 2027, he's the kind of guy who will probably need to keep his hand in meantime.
Leeds is a good opportunity or a poisoned chalice whichever way you look at it - but what we do have is a lot of junior talent coming through, which I think would greatly appeal to Arthur. Rowley also.
Thing with Blease leading this is that he might make the appointment and consider different candidates than GH would, but if it comes down to paying Arthur £400k per year to get him, will GH and the board back that?
I don't know but I reckon Arthur would cost around double whatever they were paying Smith, and we've also taken on Blease's salary. We also need cash to go after a couple of really good overseas players IMO, and use the Marquee allowance. If we're serious about winning again we're going to have to stop trying to do it on a shoestring.'"
Investment has to match the ambition. Did you see SKYs estimation of what clubs are currently spending on players? We're the best part of 500k behind Cats, Wire, and the Pies.
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| Bit of a leftfield crazy idea but what about Arthur until end of season then Rowley in for next season?
Would that even work? Would he even bother?
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| Quote Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Bit of a leftfield crazy idea but what about Arthur until end of season then Rowley in for next season?
Would that even work? Would he even bother?'"
If BA wants the job long term why would he move over just for a few months as a stand in.
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| Quote Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Bit of a leftfield crazy idea but what about Arthur until end of season then Rowley in for next season?
Would that even work? Would he even bother?'"
I don't think that's crazy at all - or even Demetriou on a similar basis. Blease did talk about potentially an interim.
If Rowley is signed up for 2025, they will still be in dialogue about players etc. beforehand so it could be a smooth transition. I don't actually think it's fair to poach a head coach mid season like this, call me old fashioned but Rowley seems a good bloke and I doubt he'd want to leave Salford in the lurch.
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| Quote ArthurClues="ArthurClues"Investment has to match the ambition. Did you see SKYs estimation of what clubs are currently spending on players? We're the best part of 500k behind Cats, Wire, and the Pies.'"
Yeah and it shows doesn't it? This is kindof my point though: without anything else changing, where is this extra £1m per year on wages coming from? £500k on improved players in key positions, Blease, and increased spending on the head coach too...
AMT might provide some of the answer but I think Leeds generally is run more like an operating business than a rich man's plaything.
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| Quote STEVENM1000="STEVENM1000"If BA wants the job long term why would he move over just for a few months as a stand in.'"
But if hes got that other job lined up next year, he might just want a few months over here, get paid a wedge and complete some scouting for the expansion team to boot.
Im not saying thats happening but it could....
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| Quote Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"But if hes got that other job lined up next year, he might just want a few months over here, get paid a wedge and complete some scouting for the expansion team to boot.
Im not saying thats happening but it could....'"
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| Mate, I MOD on here... Bound to have an effect.
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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"Yeah and it shows doesn't it? This is kindof my point though: without anything else changing, where is this extra £1m per year on wages coming from? £500k on improved players in key positions, Blease, and increased spending on the head coach too...
AMT might provide some of the answer but I think Leeds generally is run more like an operating business than a rich man's plaything.'"
It's never been run as a rich man's plaything and I doubt it ever will be. However, the time as come for the board to speculate to accumulate, just like successful businesses do. Crowds are still very good, but how much better would they be if we had a winning team? Same also applies to corporate side.
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| l didn't know the coaches salary counted on the cap. thought it was just the playing squad
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| Quote tad rhino="tad rhino"l didn't know the coaches salary counted on the cap. thought it was just the playing squad'"
It doesn’t.
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| that's what I thought but I'm no expert on it
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| Quote KaeruJim="KaeruJim"Yes if Arthur has Perth lined up for 2027, he's the kind of guy who will probably need to keep his hand in meantime.
Leeds is a good opportunity or a poisoned chalice whichever way you look at it - but what we do have is a lot of junior talent coming through, which I think would greatly appeal to Arthur. Rowley also.
Thing with Blease leading this is that he might make the appointment and consider different candidates than GH would, but if it comes down to paying Arthur £400k per year to get him, will GH and the board back that?
I don't know but I reckon Arthur would cost around double whatever they were paying Smith, and we've also taken on Blease's salary. We also need cash to go after a couple of really good overseas players IMO, and use the Marquee allowance. If we're serious about winning again we're going to have to stop trying to do it on a shoestring.'"
If Arthur would cost £400k pa , I reckon that will be 3 times what Smith was on, it’s one reason I think it will be Rowley
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| Quote Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"Bit of a leftfield crazy idea but what about Arthur until end of season then Rowley in for next season?
Would that even work? Would he even bother?'"
I think it would be possible to say to Arthur, why don’t you come in on a deal until end of the season, we can see if we fancy you, you can see if you fancy us and enjoy UK life. If the answer to both is Yes we do a longer deal, if either party is not keen we part amicably and then we could move for Rowley for 2025.
Arthur may not go for that but we could say quite openly we ended up paying out a lot for Furner and Smith and don’t want to do a 3 year deal without a trial that works both ways.
If he says No I want a long deal and we think he is the right man we can still go for it
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I'm not sure what year it is in Huddersfield at present?
But IF Perth get the green light for the NRL then it will be in 2027 at the very earliest.
You need to think about where the Giants will be if the club "Trust the process" and keep Watson at your club until then 
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I'm not sure what year it is in Huddersfield at present?
But IF Perth get the green light for the NRL then it will be in 2027 at the very earliest.
You need to think about where the Giants will be if the club "Trust the process" and keep Watson at your club until then 
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