I don’t think it was a mistake, I think we ran out of quota and cap to bring the right player in. We were sniffing around a couple of players.



Arthur definitely looks to be getting more out of Frawley since he’s come in.

Pack mistakes also extend to contract extensions for sangare (I've no idea what the club saw in him to make that signing in the first place) and lisone and Bentley and Donaldson (though Im on the fence with him as he'll not be on much and you need some players like that in your squad). Compound that with singing Goudemand and we're left with naming holroyd at 10 Which given his appearance record and lack of fulfilling his early promise was a massive gamble. Of all the project signings too only McDonnell has worked out.

Might nit be popular but Ive no issue with Donna being around - he will be on a small wage and he is the type of player that can help drive attitudes and standards.



Lisone is a luxury player and one that we cannot afford at the moment.



Something jus isn't right with the whole Holroyd thing IMO, hasn't he had a couple of scrapes with players in the past - I'm just not sure if his attitude is where it needs to be, but that's just speculation on my part. Which would be a shame as he does have potential.



I wouldn't be surprised to see the pack totally overhauled in the off season, Mike is carrying them and has for a couple of seasons, he needs help urgently.

Agree Chris. Though i think a mistake was not having enough cap space to sort it..

Due diligence is absolutely correct.

Whoever identified the players presumably Smith. Then who is it who runs the rule over them to make sure they are what we require or once the coach says get me so and so it`s down to GH to negotiate the contract?

McDonnel like what`s been said is probably the only one to come out with any credit.

Bentley would go ok with a bigger pack but not with what we have now.

Martin will be a miss more so for his 80% kicking success.

So we now need to find a kicker that isn`t Miller!

With the players we currently have in our squad and the length of some of their contracts I doubt we will see us in the top 4 for another 3 years even with BA.

Would you look to exit Lisone if the club do decide to pay off contracted players? On Saturday I would have willingly lit the fuse that would have shot him out of a very large cannon, but he does offer a lot more than Sangare (not hard) and the more props we try and get the harder it will be to get good ones. No easy answers.

If we're looking at moving contracted players on I'd look at moving Sangare on before Lisone, who as you say can actually add something. We need IMO two extra decent starting grade props minimum.

Paying off contracts still counts on the cap, doesn't it?

Not sure to be honest, players do leave mid contract, we signed Croft , Ackers and Momirosvki all on contract so there must be a way round it

Don't think they do. If they did Hull would be 5 times over the cap along with Catalans. But the catch is that if you end up subsidising their salary at another club, it does. It's an expensive business any way you look at it.

When do the contracts end for the likes of:

Holroyd, Lisone, Sangare, Goudemand, Bentley, Momorovski, Frawley.

All up at the end of next season I think

Think Momorosvki was 3 years wasn’t it same as Miller?



Edited to add, no it was two

Still time to give Sangare another extension then

It's a shame Sangare hasn't worked.

I’d send Momorovski packing personally. Waste of a quota spot. Surely we can do better there from the uk or academy

I personally like the look of McCormack and if Simpson can ever get fit, he is a big prospect too. Would be a huge risk going with either over Momo though. Particularly, if either got injured.

I see Mom as similar to Frawley - a bit of a "holding" signing until out young lads develop through to first grade. Neither player has been consistently good enough for Leeds this year though.



It's possible both might show up better next season after some accilimatisation and a proper pre-season under a new coach though. To be fair to Frawley big respect for the guy, gone from his own crowd chanting against him on the pitch to a string of MoMs, massively reslient.

Trouble is Jim he only plays reasonably well for 25/30 minutes each game and it`s obvious what he`s going to do dummy and step.

Partly because our forwards are knackered after 30 minutes

Frawley, Mom, Newman, Lisone are all front-foot players, but none have the real quality to dig in when we're not dominating.



Frawley has been pretty good in D this season I think, his play from our own half is terrible, he does offer some threat in the opposition half. Given that we play mostly in our own half his strengths are negated too often.



Then again he has been part of the problem at times with his deep kicking.

Don’t know if anyone has watched or listened to the Box 2 podcast with Arthur the club have just posted. Thought it was quite an interesting listen. He’s clearly got a nuts work ethic, getting into work at 4.30!



From the interview, he’s missing his family a lot, and although he’s been surprised by the standard of SL, he clearly sees it as a second rate competition. Would be amazed to see him sign beyond the end of the year, meaning Blease will have his work cut out sorting our squad with a new head coach too.