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| P.s I f*cking hate Souths. I'm a Tigers fan and hope we batter you.
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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"Why didn't you post this before the season started? Zak after one good TV looks better than he did in 2015. Some may have thought it but not many called it. Certainly not you. And you make the statement before a ball has been kicked in the NRL.
Hardaker was simply average at best at Penrith.
In the spirt of debate name and shame the fullbacks who he's better than.'"
I actually think I did post something similar when it was decided he was going to Cas, I certainly said I would be shocked if Newcastle didn't come in for him.
The three I think he is way better than are Phythian, Gordon, and Beale, and imo he is also better than Hoopate and French (at fullback at least), and Tonumaipe (who I admit I don't know much about)
Hardaker was average at Pentrith, but he went in the middle of his worst ever season and was mainly played at centre, a position I thought he wasn't very good at for us tbh
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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"P.s I f*cking hate Souths. I'm a Tigers fan and hope we batter you.'"
Thats not what that means btw, and I hope Wests win as well because I don't like Robbie Farrah (though you probably do) and it would be funny.
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| Quote leedsnsouths="leedsnsouths"Looking at the NRL teams for round 1 it occurs to me that Zak is better than 6 of the starting fullbacks and WAY better than 3 of them. Did no team really offer him a contract? or did he genuinely not wanna go?'"
From the NRL's view I'd imagine the fee was off putting (although as seen they could've had him cheaper). After Tomkins failed at NZ probably a bit wary of splashing cash on English backs (forwards to backs ratio who go to the NRL from SL is heavily in the fronts favour). Also they have enough issues over there with misbehaving players let alone bringing one over from England.
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| Quote leedsnsouths="leedsnsouths"I actually think I did post something similar when it was decided he was going to Cas, I certainly said I would be shocked if Newcastle didn't come in for him.
The three I think he is way better than are Phythian, Gordon, and Beale, and imo he is also better than Hoopate and French (at fullback at least), and Tonumaipe (who I admit I don't know much about)
Hardaker was average at Pentrith, but he went in the middle of his worst ever season and was mainly played at centre, a position I thought he wasn't very good at for us tbh'"
Munster will be playing FB for Melbourne and Hardaker is not better than him. However his NRL failure was down to him going to Aus in the worst mental and physical shape of his life, and being used as a bit-part centre rather than a fullback. There's no doubt that a fully switched on Zak would be an asset to a lot of clubs in the NRL.
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| Hopoate is a really good full back. His problem is his unwillingness to play sundays.
Hardaker of 2015 and possibly this year would go well enough in the NRL. Hardaker last year sucked, and didn't deserve an NRL contract - he was probably the poorest full back I saw in the NRL last year.
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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"P.s I f*cking hate Souths. I'm a Tigers fan and hope we batter you.'"
Seems like you got your wish!
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"Hopoate is a really good full back. His problem is his unwillingness to play sundays.
Hardaker of 2015 and possibly this year would go well enough in the NRL. Hardaker last year sucked, and didn't deserve an NRL contract - he was probably the poorest full back I saw in the NRL last year.'"
Did he ever play full back for panthers? Thought he just played centre.
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| I personally hope that Hardaker does not revert to his previous patterns of misbehaviour. On last night's showing he's getting back to his best & will be a welcome addition to the national squad.
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| Quote Seth="Seth"Did he ever play full back for panthers? Thought he just played centre.'"
Iirc i think he had a couple of games there mate & on the wing.
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| Signed a four-year deal at Cas (2018-2021).
Fee of £150k.
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| I for one am sorry to see him go but I suppose it was inevitable. I hope we use the suggested fee to strengthen the squad. GH needs to look at why we had to let him go & why Powell appears to be getting the best out of him.
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| Quote Old Feller="Old Feller"GH needs to look at why we had to let him go & why Powell appears to be getting the best out of him.'"
we all know why we had to let him go.
lets not pretend like he didnt play well under McDermott either - he won Man of Steel here remember
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| You only get so many lives I'm afraid and he used his up and a fresh start is what he needed regardless of the coaches ability. Still early days to see if he can keep himself out of trouble, even Cas couldn't help Chase.
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| Well, we got good years out of him. Three titles, a WCC, two challenge cups and a league leaders shield isn't a bad return.
Shame the way it ended, but we move on.
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| As long as the money is reinvested in the team, it's no big deal. He was never gong to play fo Leeds the same way he has been doing for Cas because we don't ask our fullback to play that way. Good luck to him, it was time to move on, I'm looking forward to who we spend the money on...
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| Quote PrinterThe="PrinterThe"You only get so many lives I'm afraid and he used his up and a fresh start is what he needed regardless of the coaches ability. Still early days to see if he can keep himself out of trouble, even Cas couldn't help Chase.'"
Bob on. Burnt bridges. I'm still a fan of ZH and really hope he can move on and be successful.
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| From an England perspective Hardaker at his best is the best option we have at full back.
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| No hard feelings really, the guy clearly has some mental issues and I guess the Leeds coaching staff were no longer willing to deal with his off field behaviour, but good luck to him.
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Im not saying we need to buy a fullback btw, but I do think we would get a lot more joy in attack with either Sutcliffe or even Moon at fullback (both I think are wasted at centre).
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| Good luck to him, good deal all round i think.as others have said, he aint playing for Leeds again and he looks happy at Cas.
I can see him giving the NRL another shot in a couple years.
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| Was always gona end this way. Cracking player and wish him all the best at Cas.
Let's see the money invested in the team now
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| Quote leedsnsouths="leedsnsouths"No hard feelings really, the guy clearly has some mental issues and I guess the Leeds coaching staff were no longer willing to deal with his off field behaviour, but good luck to him.
Does solidify the need to look at our future fullback options, Golding has made excellent strides in his defensive games but he doesnt offer enough in attack for me, and with the way we have used fullbacks for the past 5 years he is too small to make the tackle breaks that Hardaker made.
Im not saying we need to buy a fullback btw, but I do think we would get a lot more joy in attack with either Sutcliffe or even Moon at fullback (both I think are wasted at centre).'"
From what I remember of Zak in his early days at Fev his attacking skills were pretty good.
He worked on his defensive skills at Leeds and played to the game plan of the coach.
Golding is mirroring Zak in as much as his attacking game was spot on until he got the full back berth and was told to work on his defence.
Golding in Castleford`s team would look brilliant IMO.
Good luck to Zak I hope he can stay out of trouble and continue his good form.
I tipped him for MOS this year but I would think that will go to Luke Gale.
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| Wonder if this means Cas are about to settle the Solomona case
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| Quote Bang="Bang"Parcel MoS winner'" Leeds players rarely get a look in when they win trophies, what makes you think that will change now.
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