I don't worry about opponents tactics - if we had someone to rotate roby with, Catalans or anyone else, wouldn't be able to have it as a tactics. Control your controllables and all that

reminds me though- you might know, did wheeler ever play any junior rugby at hooker?



Masoes stats aren't great no (noones are) but 3 errors and 2 penalties take the biscuit for Manu!

I've just watched Superleague Fulltime on Sky.



We missed more tackles than any other team in Superleague this round.



We made the second highest number of errors in any Superleague team of this round, and that includes the Wakey v London match played in a monsoon (both those teams missed only 14 tackles each and made half of our errors).



We were as shocking as we thought we were!

I genuinely can't think of too many display as bad in my 20+ years watching Saints. We weren't in the contest at all, our forwards got completely owned and we could still be playing now and we'd have nil points.



I thought Warrington at Magic would be a turning point for us but ultimately it wasn't and because of it I have very little faith in this team & coaching staff to deliver success especially when Kyle Amor is unavailable.

He was always a 6 or 7 at Blackbrook. Not 100% sure on his academy days but I don't think he played 9.

As the person who also only counted 5 carries for Masoe, can I ask if in the 9 carries included the times he got the ball ran a couple of yards and passed it behind him to one of the other players?



I personally don't regard that as a carry as he isn't hitting the defensive line. Otherwise the halves would all have huge carry stats.

Shame, i think he could of been a circular peg to fit a square hole, at least until the end of the season. One things for certain, hohaia and Walsh should be our halves for as often as possible this season, which leaves no where for wheeler ...

I have only ever seen him play at #6 or centre. My comments on him are well recorded, but they were always based on his reputation at junior level. I never saw anything in him at academy level to believe the hype. Just to square the circle I thought the same about Paul McShane and Brett Robinson.

No, I don't think so. I believe the carries are similar to the Australian 'hit up' whereby the ball is taken into contact.

If so then it was 5 carries.

We see his talent at least 3 times a season....

He's got some smashing talent and has shown it at SL level, but since he can never string the games together, we can never judge whether he could perform consistently.



As for playing him hooker, how many minutes do you think he'll last there before something falls off him?

I think you're being genereous by suggesting he shows his talent 3 times a season. I reckon I've seen him have just 3 good games in his Saints career.

not too sure about that one mate, and i was one of his biggest fans

It may seem that way to some, but that's because he isn't getting a proper run at 6 or 7 but do you not remember the Warrington game starting the season off, he was very good?



He then picks up a bit of a knock a few games later and then gets fit but as he a "big name" player, he sits on the side-lines for a month waiting for his chance and then when someone else is injured he is put in as centre and winger (once) and does ok.



He has only played 7 games this year but has been fully fir for quite a few more and has not been selected.



I don't think he has had a poor game this season but needs to prove his fitness and an injury free period.

But that's always been the issue.



If it was year one or 2 fine, but we are heading towards year 6 now.