Not much between them for me although in a way I feel more secure with Halley but only because I felt nervous everytime Platt did anything because of the noises our fans made!



The tackle at MM, I presume you mean the one where Halley and Scruton held the guy up over the line? and yes I saw the other tackle, both good tackles but he needs to be more consistent. If Halley works on his tackling, (hitting low rather than grabbing men 5 stone heavier than him round the shoulders!) he will be a great fullback and I certainly hope he does as he seems a great lad.

Or, you were to the point, I like to waffle?!









Halley is far from the perfect FB I'll agree, but then we have been spoilt over the recent past with our FB's. He has problems but none that I would say need him dropping for as overall he has had a positive impact on the team IMO, but then I wouldn't have dropped Platt either as I thought others were playing worse than Platt, he did excellent at Cas for example the week before the cup car crash, so what do I know?? (answers on the back of a postage stamp please

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Halley will never be a great FB, he is simply not big enough. Platt has all the necessary physical attributes, it's the mental side he needs to sort.

Halley is about the same size as Brent Webb and Halley's pace means that he consistently finds gaps on kick returns and marks more ground before the defensive gets up to him.



Platt isn't as bad as people make out and one day once he gets his head straight might be a decent player but at the moment he is behind Halley and I can't see that changing.

Webb has much more in attack, not necessarily direct pace. He does tend to have a better defence in front of him than Halley which disguises his own vulnerability in defence.

Halley originally got put there because Platt had an absolute shocker, he played a brilliant game against Leeds and hasn't had too many errors since. Platt played well in centre, but I can't see him getting in again unless Halley gets really off form or if somebody is injured.

Consensus of opinion seems to be to have Halley at FB (with which I agree at the moment).

However, where does this leave Platt?



Centre? Certainly at the moment PS & CN would be my first choice.



Wing? He certainly wouldn't get in ahead of Semi, maybe ahead of Rikki?



After signing him for three years, there must be some confidence in his ability to play somewhere.

I hope somebody wants him in this off season and agrees to be released. Once Sheriffe's ball handling gets better he'll be good there, apart from that he's been doing ok.

Comes with experience of playing in that position. Knowing where to position yourself, running good lines and popping up at the right time in support. Halley will learn all this over time.

utility back? can play to a reasonalble standard at fullback and so a handy player to have in squad to cover injuries if not necessarily a first choice starter. gives us competition for places if nothing else.

That may be the case but his terrible defence equals that out.

I wouldn't say terrible. Holding up Moore, and has also made a couple of last ditch tackles.

He's been trampled over more times than he's stopped people.

Well, he's not too much worse than Platt and room for improvement. You can't fault his effort though, what about when he stopped Adrian Morley well into the Warrington thrashing.

IMO he didn't Morley was slipping in to the tackle. But that doesn't alter the fact that Maury, Meli, Pryce, JD. JJB have all trampled him these last few games.

thats always going to be a problem with a small player tbf. Halley isnt making the really obvious mistakes that platt does and people tend to highlight, but he isnt a massive leap in quality over platt as some of plattys detractors make out. At the moment daves doing enough to keep the fb spot but he's going to have to stay on his toes, as one bad game and it wouldnt be unreasonable to give platt a game.

Now it all makes sense. You're 4 foot 8 and have an irrational hatred of other little people.

Halley looks to have better positional sense so has been taking the ball more often on the full and running it back he's got more space. Platt looks to be out of position too often which contributes to poor decisions as he's under pressure sooner. If he could sort that side of his game I'd say he's a better option at full back. Right now Halley, although he's not error free, isn't making the stupid mistakes and deserves to be in the starting line up.

Perhaps Halley's positional nous is no better than Platt's but he is using his pace to put himself into better positions as needed in developing a defence, and also for running the ball back so gaining ground towards his forwards.

Platt's overall pace is reasonable but pretty poor from a standing start which IMO leaves him exposed to repositioning.

Hmmmmmm... Read these



Dave Halley 5'11"

Brent Webb 5'10"

Billy Slater 5'10"

Darren Lockyer 5'10"

Clive Churchill 5'9"

Clint Greenshields 5'9"







Yes, you make perfect sense.

My impression is Halley's not catching the ball on the run, nor is he letting it bounce so he looks to be more ready, which makes me think he knows better where he needs to be.

Platt's not slow but there are too many occasions where either he's not getting to the ball so it's bouncing or he's stretching to get there putting himself under pressure. If you improve that part of his game he can compensate for being slightly slower off the mark and once he gets up to speed he is more physical than Halley so should be able to break the tackle more often.

It's not all about height it's more to do with build and all the others still playing are bigger built than Halley.

I agree, but he's not actually that small buit when you stand him next to other players.

If Halley is 5' 11", I'm a giant. (Height wise, not just width wise!)

Dave Halley 5'11"







Robbie Burrow is taller.