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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Not quite all done and dusted yet apparently.
[urlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_10077-rfl-still-waiting-on-new-bradford-owner.html[/url'"
It is. the Board indeed has yet to meet, but as stated in other reports, that is just a formality. mind you if they did say No, that would be interesting as our whipping would be expunged from the record books, as a game involving a non member! can't see it mesen.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"It is. the Board indeed has yet to meet, but as stated in other reports, that is just a formality. mind you if they did say No, that would be interesting as our whipping would be expunged from the record books, as a game involving a non member! can't see it mesen.'"
It isn't.
What the RFL is quoted as having said:
("The RFL Board of Directors will next week to decide whether to grant the new owners membership of the RFL: a decision on which competition Bradford Bulls will participate in from 2013 will be made at a future date."icon_wink.gif
is admittedly non-sequiter, but, what can be fairly deduced, is that the RFL leadership will admit the new Bradford company to membership of the RFL but that they haven't yet worked out which competition the new club will be invited to join for next season. Clearly, it ought to be Championship 1 - but we'll see. This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League.
It would be good, however, for the integrity of the game for Bradford to be made to 'do a Rangers'.
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| It's unbelievable (even by the standards of the RFL) that some buffoons think that a group [ipassed on to the administrator by the RFL[/i won't be regarded a few days later, by the same RFL, as 'suitable' to run a club.  Have the RFL been having all these discussions for a laugh then? Maybe they felt like a break from their routine and called a few blokes in for a chat about where to buy the best coffee near to Red Hall..jesus wept, or he would if he read some the ludicrous junk on the boards.
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand" Clearly, it ought to be Championship 1 - but we'll see. This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League.
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Why? Because Wakefield were made to start in Championship 1?
Or are you suggesting they change the rules as its the Bulls?
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| Quote debaser="debaser"Why? Because Wakefield were made to start in Championship 1?
Or are you suggesting they change the rules as its the Bulls?'"
Amazing that the posters calling for us to have a harsher penalty just happen to be from either keighley, Halifax or Wakefield. Can't imagine why that would be....
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| Whats happened to the Odsal lease? Might have missed it, but is it still owned by RFL or has OK taken it over? Cheers
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"It isn't.'"
 What he said isn't. is. What you are talking about is something different.
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"what can be fairly deduced, is that the RFL leadership will admit the new Bradford company to membership of the RFL but that they haven't yet worked out which competition the new club will be invited to join for next season.'"
There is nothing at all to deduce. That is the 100% clear, well-known, indisputable position. (Except to the other wing of conspiracy theories that I have to contend with, who would tell you that you are talking bollox because the decision to stay in SL has already been made)
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand" Clearly, it ought to be Championship 1 - but we'll see. '"
Clearly my arrse. You speak for yourself, there is nothing "clearly" about it. There are many issues and arguments for all sorts of scenarios, but the fact that YOU think it should be Championship 1 does not make anything "clear".
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League. '"
Is it? Well, thanks. This was a point I'd not considered. Are you SURE we're not a Scottish soccer team? Well I never.
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"It would be good, however, for the integrity of the game for Bradford to be made to 'do a Rangers'.'"
Hang on. You just said "This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League". Which is it? Again, just your personal axe to grind. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, though tbf you aren't the first troll to try to draw some ridiculous analogy with the totally different case of Rangers. Would you not think that analogies with the case of other SL clubs that have gone into administration might be more reasonable?
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| Has any other club publicly said they wish to enter Super League in our place in time for the 2013 season?
Are we aware of any other clubs entering the mini-licensing round?
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"Has any other club publicly said they wish to enter Super League in our place in time for the 2013 season?
Are we aware of any other clubs entering the mini-licensing round?'"
Unfortunately we will have to enter the fiasco that is being called a mini licencing application,, even though it is just a way that the RFL can try to make themselves look to be fair.
I think we realise that there is absolutely no way that they are going to put the bulls in any lower league, they just don't have the b@lls.
I have read on message boards and newspapers that the bills must remain in superleague because they have 10k plus fans. Well no doubt your mini license will focus on this fact against Fax, Fev and Leigh 2 - 3 k, well that is because the Bulls have the likes ofL
Leeds, Wigan, St Helens etc visiting, whilst the others have Hunslet, York, Dewsbury etc. Also cheap season tickets?
To use this as the reason will be as speculative as your financial plans on the last license application.
I am not saying that Fax is currently ready for Superleague, nut we have to apply or we will be shown to have no ambition, but we all know the outcome already.
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| Quote spanishbob="spanishbob"Unfortunately we will have to enter the fiasco that is being called a mini licencing application,, even though it is just a way that the RFL can try to make themselves look to be fair.
I think we realise that there is absolutely no way that they are going to put the bulls in any lower league, they just don't have the b@lls.
I have read on message boards and newspapers that the bills must remain in superleague because they have 10k plus fans. Well no doubt your mini license will focus on this fact against Fax, Fev and Leigh 2 - 3 k, well that is because the Bulls have the likes ofL
Leeds, Wigan, St Helens etc visiting, whilst the others have Hunslet, York, Dewsbury etc. Also cheap season tickets?
To use this as the reason will be as speculative as your financial plans on the last license application.
I am not saying that Fax is currently ready for Superleague, nut we have to apply or we will be shown to have no ambition, but we all know the outcome already.'"
I agree Fax aren't ready for Super League or even close. Is anyone even slightly more optimistic about Fev and Leigh?
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"I agree Fax aren't ready for Super League or even close. Is anyone even slightly more optimistic about Fev and Leigh?'"
If there is a mini licenceing bid. I presume the said teams will have to produce some kind of DOC. to the RFL. Only to be told ,they don't come up to scratch. At which all the SL fans will start screeming about us not being worthy to be in SL. Seems if your not on the boarder line of going bust , your of no use to SL. 
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"I agree Fax aren't ready for Super League or even close. Is anyone even slightly more optimistic about Fev and Leigh?'"
No one would argue that they need to strengthen, but that is not the issue. It's whether they are sustainable on crowds of 4-5k.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"No one would argue that they need to strengthen, but that is not the issue. It's whether they are sustainable on crowds of 4-5k.'"
There is that but there's also the point of whether the comp is sustainable with numbers of teams whose average gate is that area.
Is there a realistic chance that with the resources they have and are likely to have that they will strengthen sufficiently to be competetive within 2-3 years? Would the pressure send those clubs backwards instead of forwards?
There's lots of posters saying our inclusion is a fait accompli when a rational view might be that there isn't another option.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark" though tbf you aren't the first troll to try to draw some ridiculous analogy with the totally different case of Rangers. Would you not think that analogies with the case of other SL clubs that have gone into administration might be more reasonable?'"
Wakefield, for example, came out of administration whereas Rangers and, [uit seems[/u, Bradford did not. They collapsed, failed completely and have started from scratch - in Rangers case from the bottom. It looks like Bradford will avoid that fate - and good luck to you, I know that you, like me, just want to support your team and enjoy the sport of RL.
The additional difficulty that arises is from the licensing system, which is all about minimum standards and a pretty clear implication that failure to meet them will lead to penalties and opportunities for others. If a newco Bulls are granted a licence, then the standards are so low, or at least so easy to step around that they're meaningless. I suspect this won't be a problem for the Bulls, but it is a major problem for the credibility of licensing.
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"There is that but there's also the point of whether the comp is sustainable with numbers of teams whose average gate is that area.
Is there a realistic chance that with the resources they have and are likely to have that they will strengthen sufficiently to be competetive within 2-3 years? Would the pressure send those clubs backwards instead of forwards?
There's lots of posters saying our inclusion is a fait accompli when a rational view might be that there isn't another option.'"
Thats like saying that you are bigger than comp!
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"There's lots of posters saying our inclusion is a fait accompli when a rational view might be that there isn't another option.'"
I'd probably agree at this moment. It depends whether you view the strength of the competition as a whole as the priority or some petty small town, envious, vindictive, shallow mentality as the priority.
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| Quote spanishbob="spanishbob"Thats like saying that you are bigger than comp!'"
No, it's saying the comp as a whole is bigger and better with the Bulls in it. Whereas the liklihood is without a significant investor in those clubs, the SL would be lesser and smaller if the Bulls were replaced.
The worst case scenario is that the clubs are not competetive and gates fall. There are precedents for this. The very best possible outcome is that they get 5-6k and compete in the bottom 6 indefinitely.
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| A ' mini licencing process ' is quite simply a total and complete waste of time , the ' New ' Bulls will use the ' Old ' Bulls attendances and stature within the game as the reason to remain , any projected business plan by any Championship club will be viewed as ' Speculative '
A total farce , the Championship clubs should collectively decline to participate
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"No, it's saying the comp as a whole is bigger and better with the Bulls in it. =#FF0000Whereas the liklihood is without a significant investor in those clubs, the SL would be lesser and smaller if the Bulls were replaced.
The worst case scenario is that the clubs are not competetive and gates fall. There are precedents for this. The very best possible outcome is that they get 5-6k and compete in the bottom 6 indefinitely.'"
The same could be said of the Bulls , is your new man rich enough ?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"The same could be said of the Bulls , is your new man rich enough ?'"
No, it's not the same. the Bulls have 10000 fans Fev, Leigh and Fax have circa 2000. The Bulls have around 15-20 contracted Super League players, Fev, Leigh and Fax don't have any.
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"No, it's not the same. =#FF0000the Bulls have 10000 fans Fev, Leigh and Fax have circa 2000. The Bulls have around 15-20 contracted Super League players, Fev, Leigh and Fax don't have any.'"
So why have you got into the mess you have then ?
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| My money's on all the time put in to going pointlessly round the same fscking circle over and over again rather than some sort of fruitful endeavour of the kind you'd imagine people with a clue getting themselves involved in.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So why have you got into the mess you have then ?'"
Because those 10k fans paid b0g all for season tickets. There will not be so many next season when they have to pay full price and the team, with reduced budgets, are loosing more than they win.
That said, o am sure they have more "core" fans than the championship clubs have.
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| Quote spanishbob="spanishbob"Because those 10k fans paid b0g all for season tickets. There will not be so many next season when they have to pay full price and the team, with reduced budgets, are loosing more than they win.
That said, o am sure they have more "core" fans than the championship clubs have.'"
I paid £127 for my season ticket sunshine. That may be less than elsewhere, but it is hardly bog all.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So why have you got into the mess you have then ?'"
I think you've got mixed up. I haven't got into any mess.
The people who were running the club were wholly incompetent. You'll be relieved to know we've got different people running it now.
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