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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"So people want "retribution"? Against, is it the three or just two companies which have gone belly up since 2012, wound up, case closed and no pennies left to distribute?
There may, or may not (I'm no lawyer) be a case(s) against the incumbent, but not going back to previous regimes. They are dead and gone, nothing left to see, all done and officially dusted by an administrator with no money to be found, though I'm not sure that anyone actually checked the tea drawer before the lights were turned out.
So, if they come looking for "retribution" beyond the last three years there is simply no-one left to shoot, so best practise some whistling - sad to say, that may be their best chance. Btw, I'm glad that you've now let slip your major objective in all this nonsense. There is nothing wrong in trying to find compensation (is that the word you really meant?) for people who lost out and I'd wish you all the best to be honest, but pretending you had the best interests of the club at heart was dishonest and is no way to get any help from here.'"
With the utmost respect mate you are remarkably well wide of the mark, but nice try. And no it's not a case of ... "[iwell they would say that wouldn't they[/i".
Yes, two of the nesteggers are owed a small amount of money by the Bulls, but they are willing to write it off.
The creditors past and present are most definitely the least of our concerns, but there may nonetheless be a way to achieve retribution across the board for a few, if not many. Don't however want to burden you on a Sunday evening with legal mumbo jumbo regarding the above.
The negativity simply washes over us. We are looking to truly help the Bulls and the RL community. If you and some other cynics don't believe us (or don't want to believe us) then that may be 'your' problem, not ours. Time should tell.
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| Quote Bulls4Champs="Bulls4Champs"Nestegg
Yo don't have to identify yourself but would you kindly explain to us who you are, your intentions on this forum and your aims in regards to the situation with the club right now and in the future, short and long term.
Regards'"
We have done mate, well at least to the extent that we are legally advised to do so at this time.
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| Is Nestegg still talking?
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| Quote DrFeelgood="DrFeelgood"Is Nestegg still talking?'"
I only know the answer is yes because I see it when people quote it. I know most are paying zero attention now even if they haven't used the "ignore" button, but of those who are responding, it seems absolutely nobody believes a word "they" are spouting.
I'd have given up by now. It's not even remotely convincing and is just repeating rumours from elsewhere on the internet with the pretence of knowledge.
It would be nice if they'd stop hijacking the thread with the bulls hit.
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| We’ll get Breretons initial thoughts in interview tonight/tomorrow
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| Nest egg- please learn from the past,you don't need to be a hero!
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"We’ll get Breretons initial thoughts in interview tonight/tomorrow'"
Yes, you will. And will the fans for the umpteenth time fall for what may again prove to be twaddle; this time allegedly from CB and his so called consortium.
Remember a majority (if not a comfortable majority) of our fans were behind AC a few months back. Not now.
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| What are the alternatives to CB so called consortium?
Any ideas, Eggy?
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| Quote Bulls4Champs="Bulls4Champs"What are the alternatives to CB so called consortium?
Any ideas, Eggy?'"
Yes there are mate.Sadly it would be utterly stupid of us to show any hand in a public forum. That is until all of our ducks are in a row.
CB is essentially a sound bloke, but it is who has allegedly put him up to this task which appears to be of concern, In any event, even if (and it's surely still a reasonably big 'if') AC and his wife's (c/o Orcas) combined nil value shares are transferred to CB et al he/they are likely to have additional yet undisclosed (i.e. likely not disclosed to CB by AC et al) shocks waiting in the wings. So as was the case with AC, CB et al would most likely have a limited liability of sod all value and therefore if it goes tits up again then CB's consortium could also bugger off at any time and the club would likely go into administration.
Surely, we need and deserve a lot better than that.
If CB has minted backers (which we doubt) then as the RL agent, Craig Harrison, would say .... "SHOW ME THE MONEY".
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| Summary of League Express report:
Another CCJ is filed against the club, totalling £5,472. Filed on 25th September and currently unpaid.
Energy company believed to be owed a 5 figure sum.
Two local travel companies, suppliers and other clubs believed to be owed money.
Says in the report the club are trying to sell Rowan Milnes & Matty Storton to raise money.
"At least two" players informing the club of contract termination over the pension issue but that Bulls don't believe they have the right to terminate.
Also something about a report into the Odsal acquisition, but if I'm honest, I'm not all that bothered about that nowadays.
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| So when all is said and done it looks like we're going great.
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| Quote DILLIGAF="DILLIGAF"Summary of League Express report:
Another CCJ is filed against the club, totalling £5,472. Filed on 25th September and currently unpaid.
Energy company believed to be owed a 5 figure sum.
Two local travel companies, suppliers and other clubs believed to be owed money.
Says in the report the club are trying to sell Rowan Milnes & Matty Storton to raise money.
"At least two" players informing the club of contract termination over the pension issue but that Bulls don't believe they have the right to terminate.
Also something about a report into the Odsal acquisition, but if I'm honest, I'm not all that bothered about that nowadays.'"
That's gut wrenching regarding Milnes & Storton. But it sounds like it's the only alternative to admin and them leaving for nothing anyway.
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| Quote DILLIGAF="DILLIGAF"Summary of League Express report:
Another CCJ is filed against the club, totalling £5,472. Filed on 25th September and currently unpaid.
Energy company believed to be owed a 5 figure sum.
Two local travel companies, suppliers and other clubs believed to be owed money.
Says in the report the club are trying to sell Rowan Milnes & Matty Storton to raise money.
"At least two" players informing the club of contract termination over the pension issue but that Bulls don't believe they have the right to terminate.
Also something about a report into the Odsal acquisition, but if I'm honest, I'm not all that bothered about that nowadays.'"
Assuming the above is correct, is that it? Gee, most of this is old news. What are journos up to !? Has CB even been interviewed?
The energy company is Hudson Energy and yes they are owed a shed load of money.
There are many, many creditors, and many of them are owed high five figure sums.
The two local travel companies are we understand City Travel and Williams Coaches. Ask any player; the club had we understand been unable to reliably pay for coaches for away matches since the second half of last season - the Hunslet away game last season being a classic example; we understand Kear did his nut at the time, and who can blame him.
The CCJ's can be found on the internet in an instance. CCJ's are NOT a winding up petition; well not just yet anyhow, and no debtor with potential losses of say <£20K-£30K would waste throwing good money after bad to pay lawyers to oversee a WUP process. It's usually the likes of the HMRC etc who do that, as was the case with Green's BBNL.
Yes they are trying to sell Milnes and Storton, but we understand that these 2 players (and others) could in theory walk regardless in any event due to yet another alleged Bulls administrative cock up. Don't ask us to explain; it should be disclosed in the 'reliable' press (and not a RL rag) soon enough. In any case, if CB is looking to offload two quality youngsters then that surely proves once and for all that his so called consortium has no meaningful financial backers. If CB did have meaningful investors in the wings then the 'consortium' would on balance surely look to hang on to their valuable assets, not offload them in a fire sale.
As for "[iAt least two" players informing the club of contract termination over the pension issue but that Bulls don't believe they have the right to terminate[/i". We'd side with the players on that one, but our friends the RFL may still hold a gun to their head, or even god forbid threaten or bully them for having the bare faced cheek to obtain legal advice!
As for Odsal ..... well if you think Odsal is history guys ... think again.
Anyhow, most of the article (if that's all there is in it) is old news.
CB ... if you and your gang are serious players, and as we said earlier ..... [iSHOW ME (or the fans etc) THE MONEY[/i.
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| In league weekly Chris Brereton says he's 90% confident of completing the takeover. Says Chalmers is on the other side of the world so they're just trying to get an exact picture of the debt involved which could scupper things. Says Nigel Wood isn't involved in the consortium but could come on board at a later date. Says John Kear his keen to stay on which I think would be absolutely crucial as looks like next season will be all about survival while we try and get our finances under control.
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"In league weekly Chris Brereton says he's 90% confident of completing the takeover. Says Chalmers is on the other side of the world so they're just trying to get an exact picture of the debt involved which could scupper things. Says Nigel Wood isn't involved in the consortium but could come on board at a later date. Says John Kear his keen to stay on which I think would be absolutely crucial as looks like next season will be all about survival while we try and get our finances under control.'"
Thanks for that BM; thought there must have been a bit more in the rag 'article'.
Anyhow, we believe what CB is reported to have said above is largely twaddle or may be the start of yet another Bulls smokescreen.
AC is relatively easy to get hold of; trust us. AC may not have disappeared for ever; it's just that because of the pension scandal, and other potentially even bigger upcoming scandals - the news of which has yet to be disclosed (even in all likelihood to CB) - then AC had we understand become a liability. He in all likelihood was advised by the alleged puppet master to go home to NZ for a while and lie low. Maybe Russ M could be best advised to do the same!
There is in fact a reasonably reliable list of creditors; even we've seen it FFS! CB has been calling all of them in the last week. which is logical. Anyhow, as a taster you can add to the list of creditors our two most recent shirt manufacturers (Kappa being the most recent) who along with some former staff are all owed high value five figure sums.
Hey, as for Nigel should we welcome him with open arms!? He can only do good for the Bulls; can't he!? That said, Nigel must be way too conflicted to be openly or formally associated with the Bulls, despite having been a permanent fixture at Odsal S B 'stadium' and at most of our away games for the past 18 months or so. Wonder how much NW paid for his VIP season tickets?
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| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"That's guy wrenching regarding Milnes & Storton. But it sounds like it's the only lternative to admin and them leaving for nothing anyway.'"
I tend to agree with that. It's absolutely sht that the club have to sell their best young prospects, but at the end of the day if that's what it takes for the debts to get paid off and the club to start building towards being debt free and stable, then sell em all. As long as the long term sees the club on a nice stable financial platform, then I'm fine with what needs to happen to get it there.
If it's just firefighting, which is what the Olly Wilson sale appears to be, then that's a totally different matter. It has to be a fix for long term stableness rather than a short term plaster over the wound.
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| Anyone who wants to know the identity of nestegg send me a message and I’ll tell you
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| This has gone on too long now. Too many people have too many hidden agenda’s in all this. Too many people are just downright crooks, too many people are just talking . Too much he said she said. We all know where the blame lies. Just stop all this e, it’s really not helping with what is actually going on
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| Too many people think they are in the know, when clearly they are not, just guessing as usual and causing a lot more e at the same time.
Peoples futures and careers are in the balance here and some people are trying to point score. Really???? Get a bleeding grip.
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| Quote roger daly="roger daly"Too many people think they are in the know, when clearly they are not, just guessing as usual and causing a lot more poop at the same time.
Peoples futures and careers are in the balance here and some people are trying to point score. Really???? Get a bleeding grip.'"
Agree mate. The truth is out there somewhere. Even nesteggs have to spin the occasional yarn 
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| Many sympathies Roger Daly you have behaved like a gentleman good wishes to you and Elliott.
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| Quote Thackley Bulls="Thackley Bulls"Many sympathies Roger Daly you have behaved like a gentleman good wishes to you and Elliott.'"
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| Quote nestegg="nestegg"Agree mate. The truth is out there somewhere. Even nesteggs have to spin the occasional yarn
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All this e going on and you think it’s funny to spin me a yarn???
I don’t think I need to say this, but I will, nobody take this clown serious.
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| Quote Thackley Bulls="Thackley Bulls"Many sympathies Roger Daly you have behaved like a gentleman good wishes to you and Elliott.'"
Thank you very much mate
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