As an outsider what you’re doing is immoral.

Thank you very much for the kind words, really do appreciate everything that is getting said, very overwhelming again.



I must of had 40 people message me today and I’ve told everyone what I know, and the reaction has been the same from everyone, as well as all the nice comments too.

If I can tell the truth on what I know, I will do. Not prepared to see anybody taken in by people’s lies. Think those days have gone now.



Elliot text me again from holiday today to see if I’ve heard anything about what’s happening, what a joke

I've always said I'm happy to give new owners the benefit of the doubt right at the start and "give them a chance". I've done it with every one of them so far. But each time new owners come in, they end up on thinner and thinner ice, purely because of what's come before them and through no fault of their own.



So these new people if they do indeed complete the takeover start on ice that is pretty much already making cracking noises thanks to Hood, Khan, Green & Chalmers. The fact they're throwing a fans' forum before they've even completed a takeover, and saying they're going to talk to fans without having spoken to employees yet, doesn't fill me with confidence. Anyone employed by the club, from the head coach to the captain of the first team to the ever loved tea lady, should be having regular communication as to the status of their livelihoods and the status of any monies they are owed. Sure, we fans want to know what's happening, but frankly we're not as important as the people employed by the club. When someone of a pretty high status within those employees is completely in the dark, it doesn't really give a lot of hope.



Fingers are crossed for all the staff right now whose ability to pay their bills may depend on the decisions made.

Apart from the reference lumping in Omar with the others, which is unfair, I couldn't agree more.

In fairness, with Omar I never thought of him as crooked. Just massively out of his depth. I know he was screwed over in various things, but I don't think he was ever really up to the job. But I don't hold the same disdain towards him as I do other individuals, so yeah maybe it's fair point that he shouldn't be in with them. I really just included him because it was another failed effort that made people that bit more sceptical.

Ha. I wondered who that was

Happy to.



1) Re Chalmers 'pot of money' - AC had no meaningful money to invest. Lowe c/o the NZ based Orcas Rugby League Limited was just a transitional figurehead.



We are aware that most (if not all) of the money came (and we feel we don't even need to add 'alleged' to this observation) from ..... yes you guessed it .. the RFL.



Because of the failure of BBNL in circa 11/16 the HMRC (who lost hundreds of thousand due to Green and got BBNL wound up - c/o a WUP) would rightfully not deal with Chalmers (who was in reality lined up to takeover the Bulls in mid 2016). The HMRC needed some form of guarantor because AC had no meaningful UK track record (other than dabbling with Salford), and no meaningful cash. Spin is not cash.



Anyhow, a sum of circa at least £300-£400K was we understand stumped up by the RFL to the HMRC as a bond/guarantee to cover the HMRC in the event of yet another Bulls failure. Also the banks wouldn't deal with the toxic brand that had become the Bulls, and thus the club had for quite a while to use the, or a, RFL bank account to trade.



How kind that was of the RFL. That said, it probably helped that AC was (and we believe still is) a close friend of the RFL's former Chief Exec. We also understand the RFL 'loaned' the club circa £350K, but we have no proof of any such transfer of funds.



We are confident that no other prospective owner would have been treated so favourably, nor any other club. That may in part explain why some other clubs don't 'like' us.



Fact is that a certain David Thorne should have taken over the club and if he had done we would now most likely be in good, if not very good, shape. Thorne had major backers and an excellent back history of rugby club turnarounds ([ibetter also - allegedly - than CB[/i). Why even the BBNL administrator, the unfairly maligned Gary Petit, vehemently recommended to the RFL that Thorne get our club. The RFL in effect ignored Gary's recommendation; they had we firmly believe (and we have evidence to affirm the same) already chosen the man who was to succeed Green a few months prior to throwing BBNL under a bus, i.e. AC. Why was that ? We and others know, but at this time cannot reveal why in a public forum; it can hopefully wait for a court hearing.



2) Duffy - only a short answer necessary. We have been repeatedly informed that he may have some 'dirt' on a certain high ranking person. Regardless of Stuart's apparent shortcomings (inc as you say 'player welfare' etc), and the fact that most of the players appear to ignore him, he still stays in post. No owner in their right mind would continue to employ such an allegedly spent force, and in particular businesses that are heavily in debt, as have been the Bulls for many years and through successive owner incarnations. We are aware that Duffy slagged off the aforementioned David Thorne's well meaning and well founded interest in the club, and we are told that Stuart went out of his way to spread malicious dirt around about Thorne - is SD a(nother) puppet?.



Maybe somebody should ask CB tomorrow eve and on Wed eve what added value Duffy has added to the club in recent years, and is Stuart to be a key/central figure in the club's rebirth (as CB would like to have us believe) moving forward?



Also you may want to ask CB who is Mark Wallace; what role will he play in the club, and is he related to Shane Spencer, formerly of the genuinely maligned Austria-Holdings UK Ltd? Mark W does after all bear a remarkable resemblance to Shane.



We are advised that the above is the best that we can do for now. Hope that helps RichardPLan .

Well im going to have to say im done with this forum.



I feel completely let down buy the moderators on this page.

Its clear to eveyone there is one clown on this page whos sole focus is to stir trouble and cause unrest yet the mods are continuing to let this happen.



Us supporters are doing it tough again and we want answers not more runour and lies which is what this person is causing. In all honesty i think the mods are just as bad as the one individual on here for letting this vitrol continue.



Ive had enough. I feel ive been driven away, which is a shame as ive grown to enjoy interacting with people on this page.



With that ill bid you all fairwell and live in hope we still have a club to watch next season.

Have you fixed your glasses pal?

To be fair with the amount of owners we’ve had it’s easier to forget the circumstances or even the owners themselves.....



I completely forgot about Moore / Calvert until somebody mentioned them the other day!

Pl Bull M, refrain from such utterances.



We have previously and openly confirmed that Belcki is part of Nestegg's consortium. We have never had anything to do with a member called UnbelievaBULL.



We have not caused genuine and any meaningful distress to poor Roger D; the club did. We feel for Roger and his son.



If for whatever reason you are fed up with us then ignore us.

Don’t call me poor, you can change the word poor to raging.

Stop with all your “in the know” . Everyone knows who you are and your lies and agendas are really 1ng people off. Do you never learn??

I’ve been asked lots of things about you today from lots of people and I will keep on telling the truth till you have shut up

All joking aside I agree with what he said 100%.



You and Elliot deserve better than this and unless the new owners make good on what's owed to the players and staff I won't be going anywhere near the place. I don't want to be associated with that.



I think it stinks when people are left in limbo like this.



As for whoever this nestegg creep is I don't want to know who it is because what they are doing is perverse.

As you are in fact aware you don't know who 'we' are, and nor will you or anybody in the short term. We admit that when we contacted you - as per your request to do so - we had to protect our identity so (and until we met) we had to spin you a yarn. For that we profusely apologise, but we have been advised to protect ourselves. That's not some ludicrous conspiracy; that's a fact.



We've been asked by the mods to be respectful towards you and we will - as we always have done- abide by that request.



As has been said by many; it's the club that has made you furious; not us. In your eyes, we may not be helping; we do of course respect your opinion in that regard.



Thank you.

Jesus. I’m not even a Bulls fans and I’m getting peed off at a certain poster spouting a load of b*ll*cks that clearly isn’t helping anyone, rather doing the opposite.



Hope for the genuine Bulls fans that you guys get through this. It wasn’t nice to see my club go through it once, never mind three or four times.

People need a reality check about being a mod I think. I have a full time job and cannot inhabit this place all day. In fact, frankly I can’t really be on as much as I am. I am merely a fan like any of you with one or two extra buttons. If ANY of you send me a PM it will pop up in my emails and I'll know you want to speak. I would hope that anyone who has ever PMd me will hopefully attest that they always get a courteous reply and that I'm always willing to chat. Oh and it's just Bulliac and me these days.

It's an emotive subject. The block button is better than getting wound up over the 'mysterious', smug, and pathetic neggers.



FWIW I think the lighter touch on moderation is better than blanket blocking. Well played.

Why don’t you go to the forum tomorrow/weds to ask these questions that you feel are so important?



The forum is next week for one.



Secondly, you turn up and ask these questions and everyone there that reads this message board then knows who you are. Most people on here probably now know who is involved in your little group anyway and think the way you have behaved on here, especially towards one particular poster, is quite frankly a disgrace.



Do you really think people are going to go to a fans forum and ask these things on your behalf? Do it yourself if you are so confident in what you are saying instead of trying to stir up/incite others to do your bidding.

I think those two never actually completed on the buy out IIRC, so never were 'owners'. Weren't they handed the keys by the RFL on the assumption that they would take over but then before completion the price went up (or some such) and they said no and left? I can't remember just what the hitch was but I do remember thinking I didn't blame them.



There have been so many ups and down over the last five years or so, what with admins, buy-outs, winding-ups, sales of shares - they all begin to roll into one, to be honest.

Fair point psychostring, with the exception that you allege that 'we' have behaved disgracefully towards one particular poster. We have not. If we had we should rightfully be summarily banned from the forum.



Thx for pointing out that the CB get together is next week; not that we plan to attend. All of us have surely heard it all before, so what's the point. What we need is real new blood .-.. and cash; not a re-hash of what has gone on before with the same character(s) pulling the strings.



If Bulls folk from RLFans.com do attend. given that you have a lot of mainly constructive and excellent comments to make on this sub'forum, then we hope that you will ask some leading questions at next weeks events.



So it's another week or more in abeyance; we were expecting to hear last Friday weren't we?

You openly admitted to everyone in a post that you “spun a yarn” to someone on here whose family will be directly affected by whatever the outcome of the Bulls situation is.



What part of such game playing would you say is not disgraceful in a situation as emotive as this?



You might not have breached any forum rules but as others have pointed out, it is immoral and cruel.



You’ve somehow managed to hijack all threads on the current goings on at the Bulls and make them all about you so well done for that.

Points deduction if memory serves.

Right nestegg, answer me this. Your man rang me yesterday, now either him or me is lying about something he told me. Can’t both be telling the truth. Should we put it to the vote on here, so who people believe. Please tell me what I have to gain from telling lies. I have said many times I will keep telling what I KNOW to be the truth on here to stop people like you peddling your bull



Also I believe more than one person is posting under the name nestegg



Wasn’t it strange that within about 5 minutes last night I’d had a text message and a post on here both telling me you’d spun me a yarn to see if I was trustworthy and apparently I’m not.

But you are??? Really???



Isn’t it funny a certain bulls commentator has not been on here for a while, especially with so much to discuss at the moment, oh hang on a minute.



Don’t you and your cronies dare say I’m not trustworthy