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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"Yes that is on another tangent.
However, ER is attempting to clarify your point that stand offs in the NRL make 30 tackles a game. You said it, now can you back that up ?
If you can't then just accept that you were incorrect and exaggerating and stop avoiding the question. It is so obvious its embarrassing.'"
it wasnt a tangent.
read the thread fruit loop.
he raised the point, not me, then i started laughing at him
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| Quote vastman="vastman"ffs
do you have any life other than the NRL!'"
do you have any other life than making inane replies to my posts.
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| Quote G1="G1"dally,
Why do you think McGuire would not adapt as well as Ellis has, given that McGuire was a better defender (in terms of tackles % rate) than Ellis?'"
too small to play at 6.
could he adapt eventually at 6, maybe so.
would a club risk him straight off in that position, doubt it.
if you read my original post on mcguire i said i doubt a club would start him at 6 due to his defence and then i named other positions he might get a start at.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"too small to play at 6.
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He's almost a clone of Benji
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| Quote Hollywood Harrigan="Hollywood Harrigan"He's almost a clone of Benji'"
benji is a 7 now.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"benji is a 7 now.'"
I know that but Benji has played 6 for years, regardless of the 3 games at 7 this year. Wernt Wests once talking (3 or 4 years back) about signing McGuire and moving Benji to 7?
Dont know ho that would have worked because they both tend to play the game identically, and when they are off then you really know about it 
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| the bulldogs were the team interested in mcguire.
it was after leeds beat them in the WCC and they saw how good he is.
i still believe that would a current NRL club want danny mcguire for the 6 position?
no way in hell.
would they get him as a utility and then maybe after a few games give him a try there, maybe.
benji is a much better player than mcguire anyway.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"it wasnt a tangent.
read the thread fruit loop.
he raised the point, not me, then i started laughing at him'"
There are 3 clear points in this thread.
1. Could McGuire make it as an NRL 6.
2. The ability of Nathan Hindmarsh in tackling.
3. Your assertion that NRL stand offs make 30 tackles a game.
All anybody is asking you to do is prove your 3rd point. You however refuse to do so and continue going on about point 2 as this clearly isn't a valid point so you can sit on your high horse regarding it.
Thats me done on this thread, can't be dealing with people who completely avoid clear questions.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"too small to play at 6..'"
Darren Lockyer is the same height as McGuire and a whopping 2kg heavier
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| Quote christopher="christopher"Darren Lockyer is the same height as McGuire and a whopping 2kg heavier'"
hes a special player.
and when he moved to 6 their werent many fans of it, nor for the first 2 years of his play.
and this is lockyer.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"There are 3 clear points in this thread.
1. Could McGuire make it as an NRL 6.
2. The ability of Nathan Hindmarsh in tackling.
3. Your assertion that NRL stand offs make 30 tackles a game.
All anybody is asking you to do is prove your 3rd point. You however refuse to do so and continue going on about point 2 as this clearly isn't a valid point so you can sit on your high horse regarding it.
Thats me done on this thread, can't be dealing with people who completely avoid clear questions.'"
well when im satisfied on the earlier points ill answer the later points.
and again, i didnt raise the hindmarsh issue either, it was the person that thinks he knows a thing about the nrl.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"nathan hindmarsh after round 2 was ranked 2nd in most tackles made in the nrl.
100 tackles in 2 games = average of 50.'"
But he has missed 13 - so in reality he has actually made 87 tackles.
I have not said on this thread that Hindmarsh is not a good defender I am merely pointing out that your assertion that "Hindy hardly misses any tackles" is not backed up by fact.
My point that anyone who attempts as many tackles as he does will miss a few is bourne out by the stats.
Now please show us the stats backing up your claim that half backs in the NRL make 30 tackles a game.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"icon_lol.gif
ill bet you didnt even know finch played origin.
and off the top of my head i think tim smith won a Dally M rookie of the year award as well.
when his form was good he was doing some amazing things at half back.'"
Finch wasn't the one who played game one when somebody pulled out scored a late drop failed to gain selection in game 3 in favour of Barrett didn't play origin again until 2006 he played game 1, was so bad in game 2 he was replaced by Craig Gower - and hasn't featured since - so 3 games of Origin some player.
When was Smith's form any good - he has been poor for the last two years he was at the Eels and he has been ousted by an 18 year old kid at Wigan his form is that poor - his defence is laughable.
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"well when im satisfied on the earlier points ill answer the later points.
and again, i didnt raise the hindmarsh issue either, it was the person that thinks he knows a thing about the nrl.'"
Really - well mister know-it-all come on and give us the stats about half back making 30 tackles - you can't because it simply doesn't happen - just admit you over cooked it like the majority of your posts and move on
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| Quote Eccleshill Rhino="Eccleshill Rhino"Really - well mister know-it-all come on and give us the stats about half back making 30 tackles - you can't because it simply doesn't happen - just admit you over cooked it like the majority of your posts and move on'"
so have you admitted you were a total idiot to make fun of hindys tackling given hes one of the best tacklers in the nrl.
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| Quote Eccleshill Rhino="Eccleshill Rhino"Finch wasn't the one who played game one when somebody pulled out scored a late drop failed to gain selection in game 3 in favour of Barrett didn't play origin again until 2006 he played game 1, was so bad in game 2 he was replaced by Craig Gower - and hasn't featured since - so 3 games of Origin some player.
When was Smith's form any good - he has been poor for the last two years he was at the Eels and he has been ousted by an 18 year old kid at Wigan his form is that poor - his defence is laughable.'"
1. finch kicked a winning field goal at origin
2. as i said above im pretty sure smith won the Dally M rookie of the year, his first year was brilliant, year 2 wasnt bad but alcohol problems wrecked it.
wrong on finch, wrong on smith, wrong on hindy.
hmmm
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| This site is poorer for some of the rubbish that swamps these threads.
There are posters that keep people away from this forum, I am almost there myself.
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| simple solution, if you dont like a thread, dont read it.
nobodies forcing you to poor dear.
and the bigger irony of your post is i started this thread.
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| You can't avoid it when you bring your trash into every thread and derail it
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| Quote Jonesy="Jonesy"This site is poorer for some of the rubbish that swamps these threads.
There are posters that keep people away from this forum, I am almost there myself.'"
It's not so difficult. Ignore Dally and a couple more and you'll be right as rain 
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| I take it Ellis will not be released for the mid season test against France. Hopefully he has a good season playing against those aussie internationals.
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| Quote Dico="Dico"You can't avoid it when you bring your trash into every thread and derail it'"
every thread i post on eh?
more BS
others say they can ignore it, it must just be the less knowledgeable posters who feel insecure
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| you not been banned yet?
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"so have you admitted you were a total idiot to make fun of hindys tackling given hes one of the best tacklers in the nrl.'"
You struggling to read or something? - what I said about Hindmarsh's tackling is exactly what the stats are saying - not sure what you are struggling to comprehend other than once again you have been proved wrong - in two games he has missed 13 tackles that is an average of over 6 a game - that does not support your claim that he hardly misses any tackles - so I am correct and you once again are wrong
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"1. finch kicked a winning field goal at origin
2. as i said above im pretty sure smith won the Dally M rookie of the year, his first year was brilliant, year 2 wasnt bad but alcohol problems wrecked it.
wrong on finch, wrong on smith, wrong on hindy.
hmmm'"
Idiot - Finch has played three games of origin - the last of which was three years ago, Smith won the Dally M in 2005 - we are not talking about what these players were doing then we are talking about what these players are doing now - Smith is being kept out of a very poor Wigan side by an 18 year old rookie and Finch will only see origin if he were the last man standing. As for Hindmarsh see my earlier post
So I suggest that you are wrong on all three counts?
Now when are you going to give us the stats on the 30 tackles a game half backs?
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