If this and if that.



Saints and Leeds have shared all the domestic honours for the last 3 years. That doesn't come about because of poor refereeing and a few handling errors.

Yep and Cas (1st), Rovers (2nd) have scored the most points for so far this season and we have played both Leeds/Saints in the process.

And james evans.

And james evans.

When did Saints play Castleford then ?



Look at the league table, Saints and Leeds already joint top in no time and it will stay that way until the end of the year. This weekend will decide who wins the Challenge Cup as well.

Tend to agree, glad we played Saints when we did. The cup could go anyway, the winners of Leeds v Saints could get beat if they get an away draw at a number of clubs.

I think by "we" he meant Rovers.



FWIW this year it looks like everyone is playing for third after Saints and Leeds. Allied to that is the knowledge that one great effort in the playoffs (or one off day from the top two) and everything's suddenly up in the air. Same thing goes with the Cup.

Does anybody think that Saints and Leeds dominance is not challenged enough partly because of the attitudes of other clubs - from coaches, through players to the fans? People worry about complacency when playing Celtic and Salford, but 'the anything we get from Leeds/Saints is a bonus' attitude might be just as much of a problem. I think psychologically teams sometimes save themselves for the more win-able game the week after against, say, Quins or Cas or Hull KR, when they are due to play one of the top two.



They (Saints and Leeds) are good teams, don't get me wrong, more than the sum of their impressive parts even. I just don't think they are forced to deal with adversity as often as they should be. The failure of their English players at the WC was another reflection of that, IMO.



Hopefully Bradford and Wigan will give their all in the Easter derbies and not save themselves for Catalans and Wakefield - they need the points after all.



Having said that, as we've played both the big 2, maybe I should hope they keep winning, as it improves our play-off chances.

also down to playing against a p!55 poor salford team whom leeds, hudds, and hull fc have yet to play

And lets be honest, the Cas win over Bradford says more about how kak the Bulls are than anything else.

But leeds and hull have faced celtic.

but they are not p!55 poor like salford