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| I don’t see an issue at all.
I will look forward to the outcry that will ensue though, should Mandy Koukash become the owner of Bradford.
What with Salford, potentially Bradford and the Swinton Lions development gathering pace the Koukash family aren’t doing bad for a family that aren’t interested in RL and will probably walk away in 12 months times.
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| Quote Him="Him"I looked at the Leeds accounts a couple of years ago and IIRC Hetherington did own some shares but only very few. Caddick is by far the major and majority owner.
MjM might know more, he often seems up to date on the Leeds accounts.
There was quite a clear separation between Leeds and Hull though, as long as there is an obvious separation between Salford and Bradford then I don't see why anyone would complain.'"
Cos it's Bradford and there's plenty on here that want to see Bradford fail purely because they're Bradford
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| All seems above board to me and any stability that she can bring to Bradford is a bonus. Having two businessmen with her obviously makes it looks less like a plot from Marwan. I hope that the businessmen are local, have seen her interest and get involved too.
Can't see any way in which the RFL can stop this.
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| Quote Him="Him"You can't possibly think using the f-word at a press event is acceptable. '"
It's not the first time someone's ever sworn at a press event and I really don't think it's worthy of the fuss it has caused. I'd say the same about any club chairman.
Quote Him="Him"You can play the victim card if you want but it just makes Salford fans look even more insecure.'"
Me personally? I'm not playing any victim card.
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| Don't know what the situation is now but pretty sure Lenagan was still majority shareholder at London when he took over at Wigan. I think there was a time limit put in place for him to sell his shares but don't think that actually happened within the time. London fans will know more.
Given this I can't see how the RFL could initially block any move on conflict of interests grounds.
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| This is a good move for Marwan in gaining support that he needs to force through suggestions such as the marquee player rule.
I'm surprised that we haven't seen stronger objections from some of the smaller clubs on this basis.
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| If Koukash's estimated wealth is accurate he could probably buy every team in the league.
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| Press interviews could be fun if she's as outspoken as him, especially when he starts going off about sex again and she basically slaps him down haha.
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| Is the good doctor about to single handedly drag super league by the scruff of the neck and drag it from the financial doldrums into a future of prosperity?
Is he the best thing to happen to super league in it's history?
Can KouKASH lead rugby league to the promised land?

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| Quote GT="GT"It's not the first time someone's ever sworn at a press event and I really don't think it's worthy of the fuss it has caused. I'd say the same about any club chairman. '"
No-ones saying it is. But I can't remember a club chairman doing so, certainly not in so high profile a manner. No one is saying its a big fuss either. Neither is Dr Koukash as he's accepted (ie isn't appealing) the fine.
He did something silly, he's been fined. That's the end of it.
But some Salford fans appear to think he's being singled out by the RFL.
Quote GT="GT"Me personally? I'm not playing any victim card.'"
Then don't pretend people are "against" Salford or hoping it'll fail. All most people on this forum have done is use reasonable points to counter some points put forward by some Salford fans.
The top 6/top 4 thing being a good example. It's plainly obvious Salford don't have a top 6 and certainly not a top 4 team. Some Salford fans have, for some reason, taken that as criticism and "wanting Salford to fail" rather than just looking at the Salford team and saying it's not as strong as other teams.
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| Quote Him="Him"No-ones saying it is. But I can't remember a club chairman doing so, certainly not in so high profile a manner. No one is saying its a big fuss either. Neither is Dr Koukash as he's accepted (ie isn't appealing) the fine.
He did something silly, he's been fined. That's the end of it.
But some Salford fans appear to think he's being singled out by the RFL.'"
You've seen the posts from non-Salford fans saying they think it's all a bit silly, too, right?
Quote Him="Him"Then don't pretend people are "against" Salford or hoping it'll fail. All most people on this forum have done is use reasonable points to counter some points put forward by some Salford fans.
The top 6/top 4 thing being a good example. It's plainly obvious Salford don't have a top 6 and certainly not a top 4 team. Some Salford fans have, for some reason, taken that as criticism and "wanting Salford to fail" rather than just looking at the Salford team and saying it's not as strong as other teams.'"
There's been a number of posts both in this forum and on the Scarlet Turkey suggesting people would love to see it all fall flat. If you're interested enough, you could have a look through them all.
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| Quote Ande="Ande"All seems above board to me and any stability that she can bring to Bradford is a bonus. Having two businessmen with her obviously makes it looks less like a plot from Marwan. I hope that the businessmen are local, have seen her interest and get involved too.
Can't see any way in which the RFL can stop this.'"
I hope the businessmen aren't local, I think the club would do well to steer clear of local businessmen.
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| Quote Tre Cool="Tre Cool"I hope the businessmen aren't local, I think the club would do well to steer clear of local businessmen.'"
...is the correct answer. Completely new blood, and new perpective is whats required IMHO.
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| So has anyone heard from Mandy Koukash yet and what her plans are for Bradford Bulls. Scoured the press but it seems MarwanK is posing as her official spokesperson, not one word/quote from Mandy anywhere
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| The Electrician says that he is in love with Super League and that is why he is desperate to have a second club. I cannot wait for the real motive to come out.
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| Quote GT="GT"You've seen the posts from non-Salford fans saying they think it's all a bit silly, too, right? '"
Not really but then I've not looked through the whole thread. Either way, the issue is that Dr Koukash used the f-word at a press event. Do you think that's acceptable and shouldn't be challenged by the RFL?
Would you think it acceptable for a coach to use the same word in a post match press conference and not be fined?
Quote GT="GT"There's been a number of posts both in this forum and on the Scarlet Turkey suggesting people would love to see it all fall flat. If you're interested enough, you could have a look through them all.'"
Why would I? It was YOU who suggested 95% of this forum want to see it fail. I've not seen that quantity of posts like that. In fact the only one I've seen on here has been from Roofs.
Like the other Salford fans, you're mistaking criticism and not agreeing with Salford being the next 90's Wigan as wanting Salford to fail.
In the same way as thinking the RFL fining a club official for inappropriate behaviour as victimisation.
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| Quote DemonUK="DemonUK"So has anyone heard from Mandy Koukash yet and what her plans are for Bradford Bulls. Scoured the press but it seems MarwanK is posing as her official spokesperson, not one word/quote from Mandy anywhere'"
The local bradford reporter who has spoken to the Koucashs today said on Twitter in responce to almost this exact question that the Dr had told him his wife was "publicity shy" - Not a problem normally for an owner as long as they have someone else to do the talking (how many times do you hear from Caddick at Leeds directly?) but its something that is put into stark relief when you're married to the Dr I'd guess. Both are planning to attend Odsal on Sunday apparently.
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"The Electrician says that he is in love with Super League and that is why he is desperate to have a second club. I cannot wait for the real motive to come out.'"
He has been pretty clear about it. Its to stop the game being held back by cut-price frozen food salesmen.
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"The Electrician says that he is in love with Super League and that is why he is desperate to have a second club. I cannot wait for the real motive to come out.'"
Where has he said this? He wont have a second club, his wife will own the other. The motives behind his encouragement to this arent exactly rocket science though are they, another vote at any other proposals he puts forward whilst saving one of the most well known clubs in the game.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"He has been pretty clear about it. Its to stop the game being held back by cut-price frozen food salesmen.'"
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| That is the most sense you have ever made.
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| Quote John Gilbert Reds="John Gilbert Reds"Where has he said this? He wont have a second club, his wife will own the other. The motives behind his encouragement to this arent exactly rocket science though are they, another vote at any other proposals he puts forward whilst saving one of the most well known clubs in the game.'"
Think the second reason is waaaaaaay second.
So nobody sees any conflict of interest issues here then?
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Think the second reason is waaaaaaay second.
So nobody sees any conflict of interest issues here then?'"
nope
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| Nobody seems to cry 'conflict of interest' when it comes to the Hetheringtons do they? Why should the Koukash family be any different?
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