Comparing SL to championship manager. I've heard it all

Now. Who's going to he Man U? Salford or Bradford?



You think Brian Noble or Franny Cummins will tell their teams to "take it easy"



Was it cheating when Wigan played their second team against Widnes two years a go?

I'm a bit worried one of his brothers or sisters might want to buy Cas!

On a serious note, it does set a precedent of allowing one family to own more than one club, so in essence he (or someone else with lots of money) could essentially 'buy' the sport by purchasing 6 clubs (the owners of Bradford, London, Hull KR, Cas and Wakefield could probably not refuse a substantial offer). Added to Salford there is a danger of a complete monopoly.

Saints got in a lot of trouble and fined for sending a second team to play Bradford ... In fact it brought in the 19 man squad rule! You lot seemed to think it was cheating given the angry response you all had at the time!

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! What has this got to do wiv anything?



Anyway, Brisbane and Melbourne were owned by the Murdoch family until last yr, when Rupert sold his shares in the mighty Storm. Look if ya don't wanna get relegated, win more than you lose then you have nothing to worry about. There's so much scrutiny on matches it'll be obvious if Salford throw the match, they say they love the sport, so do the plyers and coaches, therefore they don't want to be involved in throwing a match. Get Mandy in.

Wow... We've gone from discussing the possibility of Mandy Koukash owning her own club outright, to the Koukash family maybe buying 6 clubs. Jesus christ.

I thought Koukash was going to buy Swinton and Oldham Athletic.I thought it be more fun and a challenge for the loaded Koukash to buy a Championship club and get promoted. Just like football manager on the computer.haha. Leigh and Halifax would love a Koukash.

Ok, you (amongst others) obviously struggle with analogy.

My points are:

1) If Mr & Mrs Koukash own 2 clubs, they can offoad under-performing players from Salford to Bradford to free up salary cap space at the club they want to be more successful.

2) Young players can be brought to Bradford for development before been 'promoted' to Salford if they are good enough, simply turning Bradford into a feeder club.

3) If Salford need 2 points to finish in the play-offs, who do you think will win?

4) It's cheating.

He was on his way and then saw Timmy Street in the carpark and decided never to go anywhere near Leigh again, nor think about Leigh, mention Leigh, or acknowledge it in any way.

This simply won't happen. It's jut fantasy land. You could use the same example with Leeds & Wakefield. GH could of course throw their game against Wakefield so his missus is still chief exec at an SL club. Of course it doesn't happen. Fans, players, coaches aren't thick. You really think Franny Cummins would allow the above to happen?? You think fans of Salford would pay to be the others B team?

Which club is Kath Hetherington CEO at?

Wakefield.

But she owned Hull FC for years and that didn't seem to bother people with regard a conflict of interest. Otherwise Leeds would have won the 2005 Cup Final.

The hetheringtons don't own their respective clubs.

The hetheringtons don't own the respective clubs, they still have people to answer to with regards their performance, carter and caddick namely, that the koukash's wouldn't ...



Whilst I doubt it could ever be as blatant as suggested above, should Bradford be taken on by mrs koukash, and then return to the powerhouse that they once were, if they then stood between Salford and success, what's to stop the doctor from whittling down his wife's spending money until they can't compete and Salford over take them? Or is the point Bradford are only ever going to chase to be second fiddle? In which case what's the point?



Chairmen are always going to have people they prefer dealing with, and thus certain teams are going to deal players to each other more than others (Leeds to the kath clubs being the obvious example) and that's fine, but when it is controlling the finances, expectations and abilities of one club controlled by another, there is an obvious conflict of interest flag that shouldn't be ignored.



It's interesting the different reactions from the Bradford, Salford and neutral fans ...



I don't care if they do or they don't, as long as they a) bring back reserves b) offer exemptions for retaining top home grown talent and c) agree a future date (preferably ~3 years) to bring in a simple, 1 per club marquee signing exemption rule.

Over exagerated examples to emphasise the point.



If this koukash bid is allowed, the integrity of the competition dies with it.

Proof by ad absurdum I'm well aware, however the point was missed by the person I quoted, so I just pointed it out





If it is allowed using the doctors money, then the integrity is in question. If however mrs koukash has her own abilities, and finance, to run the club (and can prove that) then everything is fine, and accepting the bid should cause no problem. However, given the evidence i have seen (which I will fully admit is no where near enough to draw a conclusion on the matter) it's looking like the former rather than the latter...

I am confident that the RFL will be very grateful for the incisive, in-depth financial analysis and technical advice. And to think - there can be very few people with an in-depth knowledge of the bid, and intimate details of the Koukash family's finances - but whaddya know - they are all on here, and available for no fee!

I understand you want to save your club and if it was Salford I would feel exactly the same but come on the whole thing is a nonsense. Anyone who saw the Sky Sports News interview with the pair of them and thinks she's behind this and she's funding it herself are potty. The earlier poster who said the integrity of the competition would die with this deal is spot on.

Thank you for your input.



However I have no idea of the details of their bid, nor of their info as supplied to RFL. The RFL seem very picky if recent experience is anything to go by, and as for the administrator, I wouldn't worry your head as he will simply pick the best offer for creditors.



Whoever has the bid accepted has therefore jumped the hoops required and I did not read anywhere that the RFL felt that accepting any bid would kill the integrity of their competition so I presume that is not their view of whatever they have been presented with.



As for your patronising comment that you "understand we want to save our club" you are aiming your stream in the wrong direction - it wouldn't make a gnat's fart difference what we Bulls fans want, we have got used to the idea that something will be imposed and we have no say. So it isn't "a nonsense". It just is whatever it is.



I note with interest that you are confident Mrs Koukash is lying, that presumably thus false information re funding will of necessity be provided to deceive the gullible RFL, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is "potty". It is a brave position to adopt. As you are a Salford fan maybe you could run the point past Dr. Koukash just to be 100% sure you are right and that he is in fact trying to own a second club by improper means.

A lot of sad, bitter and jealous people on here.



It's not a conflict of interest for two different people to own two different clubs. It would be if they were the same person like Ian Lenagan or News Corp in Australia but they aren't.



If the bid is the best for the creditors it will be the administrator's favoured bid and if they can prove investment and a plan to take the club forward into the future then RFL should welcome it.



If you want to aim unfounded accusations and make predictions about the future based on ignorant small mindedness then so be it.



With the ability to read information that is not in the public domain, predict the future and with such knowledge on running sports clubs already handed out it's a shame some of the people on here don't run clubs. Rather than spending all day in here.



Laters losers!

You haven't seen any evidence you're just a gob e

Ha ha ha

You really think it's possible to own and run a sports club and not give a damn what happens to it and tell coaches and players to throw games and not only expect them to do it but also tell nobody about it and be able to pull the wool over the eyes of fans /press/sponsors/governing body/POLICE!





You must have a brain the size of a pea.

You're not even owned by a Koukash yet & you're already beginning to sound like a Salford fan.

I wasn't being patronising at all and do hope Bradford survive. I have no idea of the bid submitted or what criteria the RFL will use to assess whether the move should be blocked. I'm simply saying what is blatantly obvious from what we've seen so far.



Did you see the interview with the pair of them on Sky Sports News?

Ross, the t&a reporter has tweeted this morning that Mrs Koucash has already passed the RFL's fit and proper persons test.