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| Cas has done very well on the pitch this year.
Terry Matterson is a good coach, and he has recruited very well. The likes of Sherwin and others being added to the two previous standouts (McGoldrick and Westerman) have been good choices by Matterson.
The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .
But the problem is that the town has a very small population (much bigger than tiny Fev but still very small) and doesn't add too many new subscriptions to the Sky accounts.
The damned sensible thing as I have said many times (following Uncle Mo) is to have a Calder United club --- not a merger -- whereby Wakey and Cas and Fev have their own identity in the Championship, but a west Yorkshire club encompassing all three areas of greater Wakefield plays in Super League.
If the clubs cannot see this reality then they will have to stand or fall on the strict enforcement of the 10 SL criteria the RFL has set up. They cannot ever satisfy the geography criterion, obviously. But they can satisfy the stadium criterion. If they do not, then I think that they have to go down -- which will not be so bad for them, nor for rugby league in Yorkshire. The Championship is getting better, and wealthier and more prestigious than ever before.
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"Cas has done very well on the pitch this year.
Terry Matterson is a good coach, and he has recruited very well. The likes of Sherwin and others being added to the two previous standouts (McGoldrick and Westerman) have been good choices by Matterson.
The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .
But the problem is that the town has a very small population (much bigger than tiny Fev but still very small) and doesn't add too many new subscriptions to the Sky accounts.
The damned sensible thing as I have said many times (following Uncle Mo) is to have a Calder United club --- not a merger -- whereby Wakey and Cas and Fev have their own identity in the Championship, but a west Yorkshire club encompassing all three areas of greater Wakefield plays in Super League.
If the clubs cannot see this reality then they will have to stand or fall on the strict enforcement of the 10 SL criteria the RFL has set up. They cannot ever satisfy the geography criterion, obviously. But they can satisfy the stadium criterion. If they do not, then I think that they have to go down -- which will not be so bad for them, nor for rugby league in Yorkshire. The Championship is getting better, and wealthier and more prestigious than ever before.'"
Clubs can pull people from places other than the town they are based. Cas for instance can pull from Castleford, Pontefract, Featherstone, Selby, Wakefield, Leeds, Doncaster, Huddersfield, Bradford.
But I think you fail to see that so I'm going to nothing your posts as per usual.
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| My ideal Super League would see it have a maximum of 20 clubs:
1) Hull KR
2) Hull FC
3) Leeds
4) Bradford
5) Huddersfield
6) Sheffield
7) Wakefield
icon_cool.gif Castleford
9) Salford
10) Wigan
11) St Helens
12) Widnes
13) Warrington
14) Leigh
15) Celtic
16) Harlequins
17) Gateshead
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19) Toulouse
20) A Cumbrian team whether it is an existing club or a new franchise
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"Cas has done very well on the pitch this year.
Terry Matterson is a good coach, and he has recruited very well. The likes of Sherwin and others being added to the two previous standouts (McGoldrick and Westerman) have been good choices by Matterson.
The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .
But the problem is that the town has a very small population (much bigger than tiny Fev but still very small) and doesn't add too many new subscriptions to the Sky accounts.
The damned sensible thing as I have said many times (following Uncle Mo) is to have a Calder United club --- not a merger -- whereby Wakey and Cas and Fev have their own identity in the Championship, but a west Yorkshire club encompassing all three areas of greater Wakefield plays in Super League.
If the clubs cannot see this reality then they will have to stand or fall on the strict enforcement of the 10 SL criteria the RFL has set up. They cannot ever satisfy the geography criterion, obviously. But they can satisfy the stadium criterion. If they do not, then I think that they have to go down -- which will not be so bad for them, nor for rugby league in Yorkshire. The Championship is getting better, and wealthier and more prestigious than ever before.'"
Been a Cas fan through and through (born n bread) for the last 30 years, I would go for "stand or fall" and all beign well and the stadium producess, I know the Tigers could "stand" their ground with the best and the rest.
The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .
Do you think the highlighted part deserves a team in The Champoinship or fight for thier OWN idenity in SL?
Castleford "town" maybe be small, but if and yes, thats a if, the ground goes ahead, there would be many surrounding areas that Cas would attract new fans, e.g Allerton Bywater, Kippax, Ferrybridge, Pontefract, Rothwell, Normanton and Methley (all of which are tradition rugby areas for amater RL), and then theres the one who begrudge paying £18 to get into the Jungle. A new ground would definataly push our average attendances over 10,000
Surley you couldnt take away a "top flight" RL team, just because theres not anoth Sky sports subscribers within the "town"
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| Quote Red Red Robin="Red Red Robin"My ideal Super League would see it have a maximum of 20 clubs:
1) Hull KR
2) Hull FC
3) Leeds
4) Bradford
5) Huddersfield
6) Sheffield
7) Wakefield
Castleford
9) Salford
10) Wigan
11) St Helens
12) Widnes
13) Warrington
14) Leigh
15) Celtic
16) Harlequins
17) Gateshead
1icon_cool.gif Catalans
19) Toulouse
20) A Cumbrian team whether it is an existing club or a new franchise'"
Are you p*ssed?
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| Quote spegs="spegs"Are you p*ssed?'"
Actually I did have a couple last night. But as I said that for me would ideally be what it would eventually become. Doesn't mean that it will happen.
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| this has developed into pure alice phallus through the looking glass
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"
If the system is going to work...its got to be 1 rule for 1, 1 rule for all....NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE GEOGRAPHICALY'"
Yes, but also no. If you are too close to another club and are competing for the same player pool, this should be taken into account, as should the possibility of tapping into a whole new player pool. I think the idea of giving 1 point in the franchise system for this is fair.
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| Quote belgianxiii="belgianxiii"Yes, but also no. If you are too close to another club and are competing for the same player pool, this should be taken into account, as should the possibility of tapping into a whole new player pool. I think the idea of giving 1 point in the franchise system for this is fair.'" would you like to see that applied to the french league?
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| Maybe [u3 leagues of 18 [/uwould be better for the game. it would give more room for expansion.
[uonly a top 5 playoff[/u and promotion and relegation considered every 2 years
Irish, Scottish more southern and midlands teams, maybe a Spanish or German side thrown in too.
Lets have some ambition
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| Quote Wire_Yed_79="Wire_Yed_79"Maybe [u3 leagues of 18 [/uwould be better for the game. it would give more room for expansion.
[uonly a top 5 playoff[/u and promotion and relegation considered every 2 years
Irish, Scottish more southern and midlands teams, maybe a Spanish or German side thrown in too.
Lets have some ambition'"  i'll have some of what you've been drinking pal
wouldn't it be a good idea to have some league set up in spain and maybe even a spanish rl before we start talking about a club(s)? 
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"icon_eek.gif i'll have some of what you've been drinking pal
wouldn't it be a good idea to have some league set up in spain and maybe even a spanish rl before we start talking about a club(s)?
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That's what i mean in being ambitious

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| its way too early to discuss this. a lot can change over the next 2 years
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| Quote Wire_Yed_79="Wire_Yed_79"That's what i mean in being ambitious
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Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"icon_eek.gif i'll have some of what you've been drinking pal
[size=100wouldn't it be a good idea to have some league set up in spain and maybe even a spanish rl before we start talking about a club(s)? [/sizeicon_rolleyes.gif'"
[size=117There already is.
www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=172533
Do try and keep up, will you?[/size
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Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"icon_eek.gif i'll have some of what you've been drinking pal
[size=100wouldn't it be a good idea to have some league set up in spain and maybe even a spanish rl before we start talking about a club(s)? [/sizeicon_rolleyes.gif'"
[size=117There already is.
www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=172533
Do try and keep up, will you?[/size
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went to the opening round last week chuck. it's in catalonia only and there are no clubs outside of catalonia. the catalan rl isn't recognised in the rest of spain, a country which doesn't have a rl.
do try and keep up, will you?
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went to the opening round last week chuck. it's in catalonia only and there are no clubs outside of catalonia. the catalan rl isn't recognised in the rest of spain, a country which doesn't have a rl.
do try and keep up, will you?
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"went to the opening round last week chuck. it's in catalonia only and there are no clubs outside of catalonia. the catalan rl isn't recognised in the rest of spain, a country which doesn't have a rl.
do try and keep up, will you?'"
Prior to 1980 there were no professional British rugby league clubs outside the M62 corridor. There was no nationwide RL in Britain.
Do try and study the history of the game, and do try to invent your own rhetorical style, rather than trying unsuccessfully to imitate mine.
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"Prior to 1980 there were no professional British rugby league clubs outside the M62 corridor. There was no nationwide RL in Britain.'"
thanks for that. myself and the people of catalonia will sleep better tonight.
you should try and get out and see a game in the catalan championship. the rugby was good to watch last year and speaking to the girona captain after the game, he told me the team had enjoyed the experience immensely.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"thanks for that. myself and the people of catalonia will sleep better tonight.
you should try and get out and see a game in the catalan championship. the rugby was good to watch last year and speaking to the girona captain after the game, he told me the team had enjoyed the experience immensely.'"
I do intend to be there in June, when I visit the Catalans-Warrington match in Barcelona.
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"I do intend to be there in June, when I visit the Catalans-Warrington match in Barcelona.'"
you'll have missed the final by a fortnight! but i suppose you already knew that.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"you'll have missed the final by a fortnight! but i suppose you already knew that.'"
No I didn't. But thanks for that information.
I suppose that I willl have to rely on videos on the Catalans league website.
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"No I didn't. But thanks for that information.
I suppose that I willl have to rely on videos on the Catalans league website.'"
always happy to help. if you're planning on going to the game in barcelona, you could still be lucky. plans are firmly in place for the catalan national side to play a friendly before the SL game. ive been told that the czech rep. are likely to be the opponents.
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