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| the AFL needs to concentrate on shoring up its international game if it is going to compete as a major sport
surely they could have a world cup, there must be enough Aussies with foreign grandparets to make an Ireland, Scotland team etc....if they had a World Cup this could get interest in AFL and maybe start the code taking off in these countries
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| you must be joking sally 
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"After 100 years you would think we would have our only two cities secure by now!'" The NRL covers far more cities than the AFL.
NRL: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Canberra, Wollongong, Townsville, Auckland
AFL: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"the AFL needs to concentrate on shoring up its international game if it is going to compete as a major sport
surely they could have a world cup, there must be enough Aussies with foreign grandparets to make an Ireland, Scotland team etc....if they had a World Cup this could get interest in AFL and maybe start the code taking off in these countries'" I hope you're joking.
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| Quote Lockyer4President!="Lockyer4President!"The NRL covers far more cities than the AFL.
NRL: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Canberra, Wollongong, Townsville, Auckland
AFL: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.'"
Lol as much as i'm a league fan, you may find a few of the teams in Melbourne do actually hail from what would be termed as cities also
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| Quote Rabbit_Attack="Rabbit_Attack"Lol as much as i'm a league fan, you may find a few of the teams in Melbourne do actually hail from what would be termed as cities also'" What?
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| gelong cats . from a city 
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| Quote fredie="fredie"gelong cats . from a city
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Even if you add Geelong the fact remains that the NRL covers far more cities than the AFL does.
BTW Geelong is 74km from Melbourne, in comparison Penrith and Campbelltown are both 60km from Sydney. Should they be counted as separate cities too?
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"the AFL needs to concentrate on shoring up its international game if it is going to compete as a major sport
surely they could have a world cup, there must be enough Aussies with foreign grandparets to make an Ireland, Scotland team etc....if they had a World Cup this could get interest in AFL and maybe start the code taking off in these countries'"
the AFL do actually have a world cup.
except australia arent allowed to play as they are too strong.
so get this its an A(ustralian) FL WC without australia.
check out leagueunlimited, thefightclub, theres a really funny thread on international aFL.
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| Quote Rabbit_Attack="Rabbit_Attack"Lol as much as i'm a league fan, you may find a few of the teams in Melbourne do actually hail from what would be termed as cities also'"
please mate, i hardly classify melbourne itself as a city its that far behind sydney.
newcastle, wollongong, gold coast, brisbane, melbourne, auckland.
penrith is practically a city on its own right.
RL areas in australia comprise 55% of the entire population.
throw in our exposure to NZ, and its NRL by a long way
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| Quote Lockyer4President!="Lockyer4President!"Even if you add Geelong the fact remains that the NRL covers far more cities than the AFL does.
BTW Geelong is 74km from Melbourne, in comparison Penrith and Campbelltown are both 60km from Sydney. Should they be counted as separate cities too?'"
i think he was meaning places like st kilda or hawthorn were cities, which would be quite silly.
they are suburbs of melbourne, much as balmain, parramatta or kogarah are sydney suburbs
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"
anyway mate, rather than spending most of your time talking up AFL, why not try and get out to some NRL games, and actually watch more of the NRL yourself.
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Maybe one day, when the NRL realises the N stands for National and not NSW!
Australia only has 10 or so major population centres, how hard is it to get a team in each of them?
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"Maybe one day, when the NRL realises the N stands for National and not NSW!
Australia only has 10 or so major population centres, how hard is it to get a team in each of them?'"
the NRL is actually international.
AFLs idea of international is to get a bunch of irish lads and play a hybrid game that no one actually plays.
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| yes then the aussies bashes them  ............ 
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| technically Parramatta, Penrith, Bankstown, Campbelltown etc are all cities. And the NRL grand final did outrate the AFL one
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| Quote dally messenger="dally messenger"the NRL is actually international.
AFLs idea of international is to get a bunch of irish lads and play a hybrid game that no one actually plays.'"
and the crowds for this nonsense of an Int game compared to true blue RL test matches in Sydney are?????
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| ffs as much as i'm a league man through & through, AFL absolutely kills us for passion, crowds, marketing, sponsorship, they are 100 times more proffesional in the way they run their game.
They understand having massive amounts of members for clubs is a sure way of making money, we lag behind.
If you think League is ahead of AFL on a national level then you truelly have your head in the sand
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"and the crowds for this nonsense of an Int game compared to true blue RL test matches in Sydney are?????'" lol. Since when do big crowds validate everything? I'm getting sick from he constant circlejerking over crowds from people on the internet.
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| Quote Rabbit_Attack="Rabbit_Attack"ffs as much as i'm a league man through & through, AFL absolutely kills us for passion, crowds, marketing, sponsorship, they are 100 times more proffesional in the way they run their game.
They understand having massive amounts of members for clubs is a sure way of making money, we lag behind.
If you think League is ahead of AFL on a national level then you truelly have your head in the sand'" Agree except for the parts I've bolded. Passion? At Homebush I've seen 25'000 RL fans make more atmosphere than 60'000 AFL fans. There's no comparison.
As for professionalism, a lot of it is just the impressions given from their all powerful PR department. Look at how the NRL, AFL and A-League have all handled expansion to the GC. Amateurs would be able to do a better job than what the AFL have done.
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| Not that I have any faith in the methodology used to gather TV statistics but seems we have even lost a key bragging right this year:
[iOverall the AFL GF rated 3.247 million to the NRL's GF 3.070 million from the five capital cities and regional networks[/i
IF we could get a better TV deal next time then the money should be used to bring in 4 new teams; Perth and Central Coast 2013, Brisbane2 & Adelaide 2016. Ideally we would see a couple of Sydney teams disappear but unlikely to happen for another 5-10 years when the pokie money finally drys up and they finally admit there isn't the fanbase or corporate support for 9 teams in one city..
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"and the crowds for this nonsense of an Int game compared to true blue RL test matches in Sydney are?????'"
so to sum up :
1. AFL has no team in another country as the NRL does.
2. AFL has no real international game of its own
3. AFL has no origin.
funny how you miss all these things in your sycphantic rants about that god awful sport.
the upcoming RLWC will be a further nail in the coffin for that horrible, horrible "sport?"
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| Quote Rabbit_Attack="Rabbit_Attack"ffs as much as i'm a league man through & through, AFL absolutely kills us for passion, crowds, marketing, sponsorship, they are 100 times more proffesional in the way they run their game.
They understand having massive amounts of members for clubs is a sure way of making money, we lag behind.
If you think League is ahead of AFL on a national level then you truelly have your head in the sand'"
what is the passion like for an AFL origin game?
you know origin, the event that gets TV ratings of 10 million, crowds over 150,000 and generates millions for australias number 1 footy code.
indeed a brisbane lions player (AFL) said he wished their sport had something that united queensland like the origin did.

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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"Not that I have any faith in the methodology used to gather TV statistics but seems we have even lost a key bragging right this year:
[iOverall the AFL GF rated 3.247 million to the NRL's GF 3.070 million from the five capital cities and regional networks[/i
IF we could get a better TV deal next time then the money should be used to bring in 4 new teams; Perth and Central Coast 2013, Brisbane2 & Adelaide 2016. Ideally we would see a couple of Sydney teams disappear but unlikely to happen for another 5-10 years when the pokie money finally drys up and they finally admit there isn't the fanbase or corporate support for 9 teams in one city..'"
the future for the nrl is in queensland.
with its population booming and the state RL mad, it needs more teams.
indeed i think queensland will cause the aFL massive losses as the gold coast and brisbane AFL teams will be losing lots of money
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| Don't disagree, the game needs another NZ team, another Q'land team, a central Coast team, an Adelaide team and a Perth team to just about wrap up the whole country. Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever see it whilst A) Gallop is running the show, B) News are running the game C) we have 9 clubs in Sydney.
NRL will need to make some tough choices in years to come, if it has the vision, leadership and b4lls to do it is very debateable.
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