According to Superleague.co.uk McGuire is averaging 17.5 tackles a game.



His defence has improved out of sight in the last few years.

Is there no end to your insecurity driven waffle. Your endless attempts to big up the NRL and downgrade SL are becoming quite laughable and pathetic. Calling McGuire a "speed bump" you have hit a new low.



I would have thought even someone as lost in their own stupidity as you couldn't have failed to notice a 20 year old SL Academy player lost his life in a reserve team match making a tackle - was he a "speed bump" or whatever equally dim ocker comment you have in your locker. Was his defence suspect, would NRL training have stopped that? No it wouldn't because they are all brave lads who give their best - end of.



This mythical difference in intensity between the NRL and SL only exists in your prepubescent imagination in my opinion. For most of us the difference is minimal and thus both leagues are watched and admired. Both leagues contain genuinely great players, and which league they decide to play in does not diminish that other than to self justifying fools like you who need constant validation of themselves and their ideals.



Ellis always has been a superb player - playing in the NRL will make him a different player but not a necessarily a better one. Peacock will probably not play in the NRL but that will not diminish him in any way, he like Ellis has already proved himself a great player.



After the last week I myself have a new admiration and respect for all RL players at whatever level. Now please drop your evangelical NRL is the best, SL is poor, my dad is bigger than yours nonsense. Don't bleat that you never mentioned any of this because your endless inferences that SL is soft are all too obvious, just enjoy both and give us all a break.

Ouchh.. you ruled...

NRL is still a higher intensity week in week out whatever you say.

I agree on almost every other point mind

Unless Benji has had his talent for the game reduced by 90%, then there is no similarity at all. McGuire isn't up to NRL standard. It would be Shaun Edwards all over again, great in a winning team in England, out of his depth in Australia.



Ellis OTOH had a very good game last night and totally outplayed Mason.

nice

I did not mean that incident, I agree he could not stop the player going low, he should have gone Chest high.

I was referring to where he went the wrong way and opened a gap for the Cowboys to run through, he had several lapses in defence.



=red"most professional player at the Wests club"



I think Marshall, Farah, etc may be as professional as Gareth to be honest.

but not more professional?

Watching the Footy Show here the other night, according to Fatty... "Ellis is good because he plays like an Aussie"









I love the arrogant logic of the ockers.

what a load of tripe.



did you watch the WCC?



mcguire defence was exposed for what it is.



danny mcguire has great potential to be a good player in the nrl.



on current standards his defence is well below par for a 6.

heard that.



there once was a time they used to say aussie players were good because they played like poms.



that was 40 or 50 years ago

Danny McGuire an NRL 6 ???!?!?!?!?!











Can't pass accurately both ways, can't control a game and he doesn't even direct the forwards at the side he is at now. This is before you start with his defence, which is turnstyle like.



Danny McGuire is a support player who profits from lazy defence, which he won't encounter in the NRL. Imagine the laughing stock the SL would become if we sent McGuire there claiming to be a genuine half back, it doesn't bear thinking about.



Lets leave McGuire to look brilliant against the poor defences he comes up against over here.

when taking about NRL defences we should start adding 'pre 2refs system' and 'post 2ref system'





'pre 2refs system' defences where tough,hard etc... because the game was so regimented,everyone knew that the ball was going to be driven in 4 or 5 times right up the middle...



'post 2refs system' the game has been blown wide open,fast moving,free flowing,gaps galore,exciting RL...





the likes of danny mcguire.....and rob burrows would thrive in a 'post 2ref system' NRL imo...

Thats a good point Roughy, and I think it's also the reason that Benji Marshall seems to have found a new lease of life this season.

Having just watched Canberra and Parramatta, I think its safe to say neither McGuire, Burrow or any other British half could seriously consider getting a contract to play half in the NRL.



We have professional rugby players in the SL who cannot pass accurately to both sides, thats how bad the situation is.

it was a woeful game...both were well below "NRL standard"

Maybe so but the intensity was still stronger than over here and thats the reality.



I want England/GB to be competitive just as much as the next man but the WC truly showed our inferiority in the backs. Until we start teaching the basics correctly we are never going to be able to compete.



The idea that the likes of McGuire could compete down there and play half is just not true, he doesn't have the basic skill set to do so.

intensity...blah blah blah...



what made it intense was that both teams were poor and it was a close game

I'm afraid you're in denial chappie.



Regardless of that game, it doesn't make any difference to the reality that our 'best' got their backsides handed to them time and again less than 12 months ago. It doesn't change the reality that we have professional rugby players that can't pass, tackle, run good lines etc. It doesn't change the reality that British RL is so far behind the NRL it is unbelievable. It doesn't change the reality that to the Australasians, SL is a figure of ridicule and so are our 'best' players.



I suppose we can always keep making these threads up that x could do this and x could do that. Funny how, whenever x plays these players from the 'poor games' in the NRL, x looks garbage.

You really are an idiot - why not answer your point about half backs making 30 tackles in a game - prove your point and then you might actually rise above the status of bafoon - of course you cannot - that is why you are a bafoon

The same man that's scored 3 tries in the last 2 grand finals and the only man to score in 3? Saints' defence must be so lazy!

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i saw danny boys defence in the WCC.



imagine having to face attackers like that every week.

what were your thoughts on last nights games?



or the broncos / warriors game?



or cowboys / storm games?

Hello.



I'd like to point out that in your signature, you have Wigan finishing 3rd this year and reaching the Grand Final as well as Warrington winning the Challenge Cup.



Therefore, I will not be taking you seriously.