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| Am I allowed to point out that Raynor's been imprisoned for a crime worth less than £50k, yet I'm unaware of a single prosecution of any banker responsible for destroying our economy, wiping out people's jobs and effectively defrauding the shareholders of their banks to the sum of billions of pounds, all the while pocketing millions in unearned bonuses?
Sorry. Occasionally, I have to let the rage out.
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| Such a shame because Raynor showed such promise in the first game against Leeds. Unfortunately rugby league has the most unforgiving fans in the world and if Gareth comes back to play rugby league after he’s served his time lets hope that he doesn’t get the same uncalled treatment that Ryan Bailey and Chev Walker have had.
Once you’ve served your time you should be given another chance!
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| he got some serious stick at Craven Park at the weekend!
The "going down" chant was somewhat cruel but prophetic!
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| Will he be able to ressurect his career in 2012 when he's 33/34? Its a big ask.
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| Quote Roy Haggerty="Roy Haggerty"Am I allowed to point out that Raynor's been imprisoned for a crime worth less than £50k, yet I'm unaware of a single prosecution of any banker.'"
Contact the CPS. Maybe they are unaware of the crimes that have been committed and the laws that they have broken.
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| As far as the salary cap's concerned, I think he was on a short term contract in case this happened.
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| No mention of it on the SL and RFL websites
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| Quote Roy Haggerty="Roy Haggerty"Am I allowed to point out that Raynor's been imprisoned for a crime worth less than £50k, yet I'm unaware of a single prosecution of any banker responsible for destroying our economy, wiping out people's jobs and effectively defrauding the shareholders of their banks to the sum of billions of pounds, all the while pocketing millions in unearned bonuses?
Sorry. Occasionally, I have to let the rage out.'"
Sort of sums up my point!
The lad was found guilty and the consequences apply but something about the "system" is wrong.
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| Indeed, the poor lad! All he did was defraud people of thier money over the internet. 2 year's jail for fraud.
Seems harsh when there's vile Australian players coming over here and making honest mistakes on their visas and only getting deported and banned form the country for a paltry 10 YEARS!
Crusaders players agian of course, but they were SOUTH Wales Crusaders (therefore BAD), not NORTH Wales Crusaders (therefore GOOD).
Still ... you're not a proper SL team until you've got a jailbird in your squad (though admittedly usually because of gambling scams, violence or spousal abuse).
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| clearly not enough money in being a Rugby Player, maybe thats why Hull want to change the Salary cap?
I find it strange he was on a suspended sentence for assault but is jailed for fraud, mind you his defence about being a role model was pretty laughable
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"Will he be able to ressurect his career in 2012 when he's 33/34? Its a big ask.'"
I'll have to change my handle to tough ask........
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| Quote Hopie="Hopie"I find it strange he was on a suspended sentence for assault but is jailed for fraud, mind you his defence about being a role model was pretty laughable'"
Defrauding the state is the biggest crime you can commit, they arnt really bothered about you assaulting folk as it doesnt effect the establishment, only "chavy scum"
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| Typical that the Telegraph sports section had more coverage of this than in Monday's edition supposedly covering the weekends RL.
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| Quote Paddock Punter="Paddock Punter"Typical that the Telegraph sports section had more coverage of this than in Monday's edition supposedly covering the weekends RL.'"
maybe they used his ink on monday 
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| Raynnor's life is in tatters.
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| Quote back to back to back="back to back to back"Raynnor's life is in tatters.'"
nah doncaster
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| Quote Traffic="Traffic"www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=1768
club seem to be sticking by him'"
yeah good on them , Hull got shut of him cos they used the ink for Paul Cookes contract 
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| Quote MUTLEY CAT="MUTLEY CAT"yeah good on them , Hull got shut of him cos they used the ink for Paul Cookes contract
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Indeed, a violent, racist fraudster, well done SL for sticking by him (and I include FC in that!) - not what we need.
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| Lol theres this guy who comes to where i work who claims to be Raynors cousin (dont know if he actually is) and he always used to come up to us in the shop and say "our Gareth, 2 trys this weekend" then walk off, he hasnt been in and said anything in a bit now.
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| A GREAT PLAYER IN HIS DAY ALTHOUGH THE 'CRAB' PROBABLY GAINED MORE METRES GOING SIDEWAYS THAN FORWARDS.
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| Quote Sharpy_4a="Sharpy_4a"Defrauding the state is the biggest crime you can commit, they arnt really bothered about you assaulting folk as it doesnt effect the establishment, only "chavy scum"'"
Am I the only one who thinks the legal system has got it right in both cases?
In the first conviction, the judge took into account the fact that he pleaded guilty to the assault and that it was a first offence and that he was of previous good character (and plenty of people came forward to say so). Maybe the judge (rightly or wrongly) regarded an incident with a nightclub bouncer as having some extenuating circumstances?
For fraud & counterfeiting, though, it's a pre-meditated crime which went on for a significant period. It must have required a fair amount of organisation to import stuff from China and re-badge it - not a momentary loss of temper or misjudgement. Also he pleaded not guilty at the initial hearing, wasting court time and CPS money. For the amount of cash that's quoted, there must have been thousands of people who were affected by this. I suspect the court will be trying to confiscate his assets to recoup money as well.
Did his girlfriend get a guilty verdict & custodial sentence too - none of the reports say much about her?
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| Quote Standee="Standee"Indeed, violent, racist fraudsters, - not what we need.'"
That sums up the tory party, who's next in your gunsights? 
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| Quote MUTLEY CAT="MUTLEY CAT"yeah good on them , Hull got shut of him cos they used the ink for Paul Cookes contract
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Good one.
(Although I do have to say that as it has transpired,I am pleased Cooke`s ink was duff.)
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