eden park didnt look this empty when benji was there leading the mighty kiwis for battle



looks like union in nz is declining quicker than id hoped for.



this crowd in canberra looks poor too

dont forget the kangaroos kill the wallabies in terms of tv viewers



the best union test match rarely beats a normal friday night football game yet our tests will get around double the viewers

yeah shows your ingorance there



the brits for 60 yrs were dominant in int. RL

good because without fans coming week to week the game will die.



in RL the club game is everything, its why we are such a strong sport

Yes I know about tv viewing we kill all.But he was talking about attendances.

But it is still going and regularly draws crowds for games against NZ in Australia that RL could only dream about.



The two sports have very different focusses and if you think because you get a big TV deal you will kill rugby union and their players will all come to RL and kids will not want to play for the all blacks you are in for a nasty shock.

he was only talking about attendances cause hes a troll and he picks the bit that makes union look good whilst ignoring where it looks bad like all trolls do



no one knows of the wallabies in australia unlike our boys



inglis, slater, smith, lockyer, thurston etc are household names



i doubt many people in australia can name a wallaby player off the top of their head

We are you talking about Dally we haven't beat Australia in a series for over 40 years - that is much more relevant than what happened before the second world war!!!



The amateur game in England - which is where all the young players come from is a fraction of the size it was 30 years ago - the pool of players is simply insufficient to funnel down to a side that has the quality to challenge the very best in the world.



Add to that the differentials in the intensity/quality of SL compared to the NRL it is men against boys.

Since you have said that now,it's true i cant name any wallaby player either.And I'm not being selfish.I just don't hear of the wallabys no more,like we use too.

just to summarise our sitauation here :



Cumulative viewers each week in australia :



Union : 550,000

Rugby League :m 4.5 million



indeed our under 20s competition, the Toyota Cup, regularly beats the S15

When the mighty RL Kiwis get attendances anywhere near the All Blacks come back crowing - it wont be anytime soon

i used to read stuff that they would have fan days and the only players the kids wanted autographs were the league boys like dell, sailor and lote



do you know rocky elsom has captained the wallabies and he was a reserve grader at the bulldogs?

Agreed - what is strange is why the TV companies are prepared to pay so much money for such a poorly watched event?

you should go to union sites mate,this place is not for trolls.This place is for true league fans.

once we start signing up All blacks after the world cup i doubt its going to help



people wont pay to watch poor players



weve got years of growth in nz

no but

they arnet paying much for it



our current tv deal is worth more than the S15 current deal



our next deal will be double



its why the aru and nzru are losing millions

wycliff palu was a reserve grader with the dragons too



when he went to union they even thanked us for making him fit.



now he plays for the wallabies



Intnernational RU = reserve grade RL

Agreed again - but how is that a sport that nobody knows any of the players can fill the biggest sporting stadium in Australia?

the wallabies havent had a sell out in years



since the Soceroos have emerged onto a real world stage they decimated any support the wallabies had

Nobody is being troll - I am simply stating the facts - so are the attendances for RU internationals between NZ and Australia bigger/smaller than those of RL?



This isn't a trick question

Why do you bring it up for?





It's like saying our NRL attendances smash SL one's but you don't hear us carrying on about it.

The Wallabies v All Blacks at Sydney - the heartland of RL - in 2010 attracted a crowd of 70,288 - good job soccer has decimated their crowd, what was the attendance for the final of the 4 nations between the 2 RL nations



This is a fact not a troll