what strange reasoning

Well, this is the Virtual Terrace Smokey.

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HTH

No reasoning required.

Leeds got smaller crowds then because they weren't so successful. They get big crowds now because they are successful. If in ten years time they are in the 2nd division they will no longer get 2009-size crowds.

It's not rocket science.

You can call the "additional" fans "gloryhunters" or whatever. It's actually just normal.

I don't see what the big deal about this is. As is pointed out it was bigger than last year despite Bradford having probably the worst start to the year since they started SL.

We all know which direction the Bulls crowds have been going in and there are problems. I think the ground is of course one but I think the negativity around the club is another. People seem to be jumping off a sinking ship. I completely agree that the Bully Bully thing has had its day and they need a new direction.

One final point, it was also bigger than the 13,631 that attended the derby in 2002.

Of course it is. Not everybody is a diehard fan and people do pick and choose their games. They want to see the big teams but only if there is a chance you will win. Its no fun playing your derby when its a near guaranteed defeat and an expected heavy one at that.

People often say when there is a big crowd, where are those thousands of fans week in week out? When Widnes have (had) big games thats when the likes of your sisters and everyone goes that have no real interest in Rugby apart from it being where they are from. They go because everyone in the town is going and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Are they all coming back to support their local team?

But to be fair, that was at Valley Parade. Wasn't too popular a place with Bulls fans.

So how do you explain Wigan's crowds? They haven't had much success in a while, but their crowds have been growing. In fact, they actually grew the year they were nearly relegated. Who was hunting glory that year?

Leeds didn't have a very successful year in 2006 but still managed to maintain a near-capacity crowd every week (capacity was reduced because of the stand works, so crowds will dip due to this). Where as Bradford in 2006 dropped their crowds by 2,000 despite being the reigning champions AND only one win away from the Grand Final. They were still successful, but lost a lot of fans.

A lot of your probably don’t trust messages that I get from people but my relatives at the game thought they was more than 14,554 fans. Yes it did look packed behind the sticks but from where I was standing in the first half I could do cartwheels. Second half my cousin sneaked me into the family stand where I could find a seat next to him in the apparently sold out stand. I could spot around 20 - 30 empty seats clearly in the family stand as could my cousin and he’s in the army not wearing these (my glasses) spectaculars -



Anyways this isn’t the point. If you all about brownie points then get a sex change and join them. I think the brownies have done the ladies on this site well as they aren’t as opinionated as us.

It was a healthy crowd IMO and a good game. If you want to go on about attendances then start comparing yourself to someone better than yourselves rather than someone a bit worse than you. Bully's!

Spot the difference...

err 1 has glasses .......what i win ??