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| Didn't realise there is a time limit on nonsense.paasi targeted the knee of a player being held by two defenders.asiata made a tackle on a moving player.
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| Quote thesaint71="thesaint71"Quite a few people have I was told this on Sunday'"
Based on what medical evidence - Wilkin's 10-year training to become an orthopaedic surgeon?
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"The trolling on here is so bad. If you're going to throw nonsense like that in, at least make it somewhat relevant to something.'"
Trolling?  I'm merely highlighting the fact that Saints are the masters of the grubby tackle yet you're all now out in force crying about it. I haven't seen the tackle back as I'm in Spain before heading over to watch Catalans on Saturday (just thought I'd drop that in there  ) but Saints fans have no right to cry about being hard done by.
Whingeing Scousers with the old self-pity city attitude. 
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"Not quite.
One was a tackle against the rules of the game and one wasn't.'"
Really?
Case Number:
ON/355/23
Morgan Knowles #13, St Helens
Competition:
Super League
Match:
Wigan Warriors v St Helens
Match Date:
2023-04-07
Incident:
Dangerous Contact
Decision:
Charge
Charge Detail:
Law 15.1 (i)
Dangerous Contact - Defender uses any part of their body forcefully to twist, bend or otherwise apply pressure to the limb or limbs of an opposing player in a way that involves an unacceptable risk of injury to that player.
Grade D
So Defender (Asiata) uses any part of their body (shoulder) to twist bend or [iotherwise[/i apply pressure to the limb or limbs of any opposing player in a way that involves an unnacceptable risk of injury to that player.
Seems straight forward to me.
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| You've just made that Asiata charge up haven't you?
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"It's just not. Where has this idea come from? If you look at the physics involved, throwing his shoulder and all his body weight into the planted knee, opposite the direction he's running from, it can only result in injury. A 'copybook' tackle on the lower legs is where you place your head behind the knees and use your hands to grab the legs, taking the player down using his own momentum, so he falls in the direction he's running. Players aren't taught to drop their body weight and drive their shoulder through the knee joint at all.
If players started tackling like that, there would be horrific consequences. I'm convinced most people on here haven't even seen the tackles, the responses on here are so childish. I understand the Leigh fans being defensive, but I'm not talking about bans here, I've already said it''s not against the current rules. But there's an ethical angle to it, most players wouldn't tackle like that due to how likely it is to cause injury.'"
It’s not that they haven’t seen it, it’s that they’re physically incapable of objectively looking at incidents for fear of saying something sensible that might be in “benefit” of another club. It’s classic RL fans. They’re the worst sports fans in the world
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| It strikes me (no pun intended) that it's simply a variation on a cannonball tackle and as such should probably treated the same and outlawed.
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"It strikes me (no pun intended) that it's simply a variation on a cannonball tackle and as such should probably treated the same and outlawed.'"
I don't think anyone is arguing against the outlawing of the cannonball tackle. My understanding is a cannonball is a tackle to the legs of a stationary player, whereas my recollection is that both injured players were moving. It is very difficult to time a tackle to a moving players legs to hit a knee while the leg is only temporarily planted. Which is why I don't think the tackle was malicious. Unless you are banning tackling to the legs, while a player is in motion, what are you proposing?
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| It is very difficult to time a tackle to a moving players legs to hit a knee while the leg is only temporarily planted. Which is why I don't think the tackle was malicious.
Asiata must be an expert then, he managed it 4 times in 1 game.
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| Quote Egg Chasing="Egg Chasing"You've just made that Asiata charge up haven't you?'"
No simply put his name in the definition of Rule 15.1(i) to make it easy for you to understand. Obviously failed, oh well never mind.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"The club needs to get official clarification from the RFL and Disciplinary that this type of "Cannonball Tackle" on the knee joint is legal and allowable. The club can then prepare for this type of technique to execute on Asiata in the home against Leigh.
I believe the scans on Passi's knee is showing up far worse than expected, 9 months is a bit optimistic its probably closer to a career ending situation.'"
How do you actually know this?
What players have recently retired from a knee injury a couple of days after sustaining it?
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| Quote RogerMoore="RogerMoore"No simply put his name in the definition of Rule 15.1(i) to make it easy for you to understand. Obviously failed, oh well never mind.'"
Was he charged with that? No.
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