yes the defensive requirements of a 7 and a 6 are the same arent they.



clueless.

I understand your reluctance to answer any of the clear points being made. However these are valid arguments.



I don't for one moment think McGuire has what it takes to be an NRL stand off but it does have to be said that many of the players from the NRL who come here don't set the world alight. Tim Smith is an example, the guy is utter rubbish.

steve menzies can't defend either.....and he's in a postiton where he's expected too..

he was playing really well at parra.

1. Steve Menzies ?



Good with the ball in hand, defensively a liability.



2. Matt King ?



Utter shambles.



3. Michael Monaghan ?



Rubbish.

heres some advice.



a 5/8th involves a very heavy defensive requirement. when lockyer and inglis moved there they struggled with the additional defence.



halfbacks are generally hidden in defence and dont make many tackles at all.



mcguire as a 6 wouldnt get a nrl job as his defence isnt good enough

he wouldnt get a gig at 7 as he doesnt play there in SL.



now sean long, had he come over he certainly couldve got a job here at 7

indeed leon pryce might also be a good option for someone like the melbourne storm at 6.

Leon Pryce would fit in perfectly with the NRL, judging by the things the players get up to off the field

When both players were in the same competition McGuire's tackle completion rate was better than Ellis' and he (McGuire) missed fewer tackles.



Those that hold the Australian competition in high esteem probably didn't expect Ellis to achieve the standard he has, just as they're saying the same thing about McGuire.



I've no doubts McGuire could adapt to the Aussie game as well as Ellis has. In fact, I've no doubts that Pryce could either. The problem isn't McGuire or Pryce. Its' the lack of quality behind them. Same in most other positions.



I watch Leeds regularly. McGuire's "poor" defence and lack of creativity is a fallacy advanced by ill informed opposition fans.

seriously id love to see pryce at the storm at 6.



they would improve his game 100%.



they take dud players and make them good.



with someone who has skills like pryce, it would be v.interesting how good they could make him

That is sarcastic surely - he was a dud in the NRL the fact he could get a game every week says much about the standard of the halves in the NRL and when Greg Bird gets a gig in SOO at 6 you know you really are struggling.



But then what options have they got at Parramatta - Brett Finch!!!

Come on don't avoid the question come on shows us the 6's in the NRL making 30 tackles a game - they don't exist - Lockyear's average is 17 and he is the highest - come back when you can prove your point - this is the third time I have asked.

what question.



ive been too busy laughing at all your opinions on the nrl.



have you given up making fun of hindys tackling

you are thick



tim smith was a really good player at parra whose form was overshadowed by drinking problems



finch has played origin and not only that, kicked the winning field goal.



finch is also a good half back.



please, stop it, your killing me.



my sides are aching from all this laughter

Guess how many ineffective/missed tackles he makes - in weeks 1 and 2 he has a 13% average for missed tackles!!!

Can't read either - let's make it easy - just show us a half back that has completed 30 tackles in a game on a regular basis as you keep claiming



I'll give you a help in looking in weeks 1 to 3 this season you will not find one so you will need to go back a bit further!!



Keep on proving what a fool you are - I am not the only one laughing!!!

That is why Parramatta were such a good side - Smith was rubbish - overhyped - he simply did not deliver on the field.



Finch is so good even Bird got the SOO gig before him - get a life at least watch a few games - you might educate yourself

ill bet you didnt even know finch played origin.



and off the top of my head i think tim smith won a Dally M rookie of the year award as well.



when his form was good he was doing some amazing things at half back.

nathan hindmarsh after round 2 was ranked 2nd in most tackles made in the nrl.



100 tackles in 2 games = average of 50.

www.canberratimes.com.au/news/na ... 72381.aspx probably why Mason resorted to the drink!!

www.canberratimes.com.au/news/na ... 72381.aspx probably why Mason resorted to the drink!!

Just to make it simple for you.



Nathan Hindmarsh is not a stand off.



You have claimed earlier in this very thread that stand offs in the NRL make 30 tackles a game. All ER is asking you to do is to provide some evidence of this.



Stop avoiding the question by making statements about your laughter and answer it. Then people may start to take you a little serious.

the guy was making fun of nathan hindmarshs tackling you silly boy



if you are trying to derail something it helps to read the thread first.

nathan hindmarsh isnt a what?

Yes that is on another tangent.



However, ER is attempting to clarify your point that stand offs in the NRL make 30 tackles a game. You said it, now can you back that up ?



If you can't then just accept that you were incorrect and exaggerating and stop avoiding the question. It is so obvious its embarrassing.

dally,



Why do you think McGuire would not adapt as well as Ellis has, given that McGuire was a better defender (in terms of tackles % rate) than Ellis?

ffs

do you have any life other than the NRL!