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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"And what part of the argument as been flawed?
Let me ask you a simple question for such a educated guy.
If Quinns....crowds keep falling....thier performance fall...they stop selling merchendise...etc etc...do you really think RFL will relagate them?'"
well.....? this is my part of the argument.
Do you think RFL will relagate them...I think NOT...
Rules are made to be broken...just ask the RFL
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"Ok so lets say, you build up for 3 years...your crowds are up, your grounds good, and you win NRL1 3 years on the spin....and you told...nah were are giving the spot the a scottish team this year "expanstion n all that"
Yeah thats a real stable enviroment isnt it?'"
If a club does all of that they will get a license. It was said by Nigel Wood that the best performing NL club will get a license.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Is it?
What about when Halifax got relegated with about 10 weeks to go? How interesting was the bottom of the table then?
Or when Widnes AND Leigh were down with about 5 weeks to go?
Relegation does not guarantee interest at the bottom of the table for the full season. Conversely, it doesn't guarantee that their won't be any interest at the bottom all season, as they could still get into the play-offs.
So yeah, again flawed argument.'"
Congratulations for bringing out 3 examples from the history of super league which argue otherwise. clearly my argument is outgunned by such strong counter evidence. The wakefield/castleford battle, thinking about it, was a complete waste of interest.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"What about when Halifax got relegated with about 10 weeks to go? How interesting was the bottom of the table then?'"
For God's sake STOP throwing this back into these arguments. I don't want to read it. It was 6 years ago. SIX ! Let it go.
bluesox4evaaa - shut the f**k up ! You're forcing people to drag up the horrid past of Halifax RLFC. You're also embarrassing yourself. Enough already. Enough.
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"Not this thread
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Or your post
Losing interest rapidly , like lots of our fans
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| Quote bluesox4evaaa="bluesox4evaaa"not if wellesy has her way. shed rather these teams be given chance after chance on the grounds of mental illness'"
Are you really that desperate that you have to start acting sexist to make yourself feel superior? I know you're failing to bring up a decent argument, but I didn't think you needed to sink THAT low!
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"The RFL wouldn't need to. They'd probably go bust.
The fact is, they meet the criteria in a lot of areas and are deserving of their franchise.'"
OMG ..o.k they stop meeting the critia in any fu***g shape or form then...stop trying to twist your argument
or lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places ?
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"For God's sake STOP throwing this back into these arguments. I don't want to read it. It was 6 years ago. SIX ! Let it go.
bluesox4evaaa - shut the f**k up ! You're forcing people to drag up the horrid past of Halifax RLFC. You're also embarrassing yourself. Enough already. Enough.'"
I am certainly not. in fact i am thoroughly enjoying this.
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"For God's sake STOP throwing this back into these arguments. I don't want to read it. It was 6 years ago. SIX ! Let it go.
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Sorry, I had no intention of bringing up a bad part of your history to embarrass you!
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| If your ansrew is no...then this is just not the way forward....if you answer yes...I think you lieing to yourself
If they would then yes...maybe this is the way forward, but in a realistic world of RFL thats not going to happen is it?
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| Quote Red Red Robin="Red Red Robin"If a club does all of that they will get a license. It was said by Nigel Wood that the best performing NL club will get a license.'"
On or Off pitch , and who makes that decision ?
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| Quote bluesox4evaaa="bluesox4evaaa"I am certainly not. in fact i am thoroughly enjoying this.'"
........... your lack of substance and basic grasp of reality is making your contributions embarrassing. It's a bit cringeworthy to be honest.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Are you really that desperate that you have to start acting sexist to make yourself feel superior? I know you're failing to bring up a decent argument, but I didn't think you needed to sink THAT low!'"
going with a womans argument on this issue would be more dangerous than allowing a monkey to fly a plane
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"OMG ..o.k they stop meeting the critia in any fu***g shape or form then...stop trying to twist your argument
or lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places ?'"
I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.
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| Quote bluesox4evaaa="bluesox4evaaa"i meant the team that gets stuck up in SL'"
It'll count against them in the next round of license applications.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"Sorry, I had no intention of bringing up a bad part of your history to embarrass you!'"
Thanks. I feel better now. 
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.'"
like the awarding of franchises
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"Yes. for the benefit of RL.
those who only care about their own teams or are too stupid to understand what is at stake are voting no.'"
Edited for accuracy.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"On or Off pitch , and who makes that decision ?'"
Presumably going by the criteria and the decisional will be made by the licence panel.
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"If your ansrew is no...then this is just not the way forward....if you answer yes...I think you lieing to yourself
If they would then yes...maybe this is the way forward, but in a realistic world of RFL thats not going to happen is it?'"
If you think a club can be in SL and not achieve ANY of the criteria, you are deluding yourself.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"I aren't trying to twist anything. You're trying to bring up a completely hypothetical argument that you cannot prove right or wrong, so no matter what I reply you will still disagree with. What's the point?
If Wigan, Saints or anyone in the SL didn't meet ANY criteria to be in SL, then I guarantee that they would not be in the SL. Anyone that is trying to argue that they would despite not meeting ANY criteria is simply idiotic.'"
i dont mean if they dont meet ANY
lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places
Top goes up, bottom goes down....theres no arguments then....make NRL1 more competitve and if your sat at bottom of SL, you need to bck your ideas up or your going down.
Lets not have some people in suits making up ideas of why a team should be there and who shouldnt
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| Quote Red Red Robin="Red Red Robin"Presumably going by the criteria and the decisional will be made by the licence panel.'"
Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine
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| Quote bluesox4evaaa="bluesox4evaaa"going with a womans argument on this issue would be more dangerous than allowing a monkey to fly a plane'"
One, I'm a bloke.
Two, you are an ignoramous.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Which is nothing more than somebodies opinion , and therefore no more relative than yours or mine'"
well...... [size=200SPOT ON CHAP[/size
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| Quote classycas2009="classycas2009"i dont mean if they dont meet ANY
lets just say halifax meet more critia points than Quinns/Wigan etc...would RFL swap them places
Top goes up, bottom goes down....theres no arguments then....make NRL1 more competitve and if your sat at bottom of SL, you need to bck your ideas up or your going down.
Lets not have some people in suits making up ideas of why a team should be there and who shouldnt'"
No, they wouldn't swap them, because that's not how the process works.
You really need to understand the licensing process more before trying to argue against it.
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