So that starting hooker will be a full back or a half back? That makes sense.

I see that a certain Mr Tony Smith has described the 6-0 scoreline as flattering for England.

Sounds like a bitter man.

Not really what he says is true

we match them in the solders but their generals are better than ours and until we can correct that it will be tough to beat Australia, although they have been fortunate to have had slater cronk and smith in the team and also playing their club rugby together almost certainly makes a significant difference when they retire it will be down to trying to find the right combo.

One thing that struck me is smith was referring to English rugby as our so I don't think he is bitter just can see that maybe we're not as close as the 6-0 scoreline may suggest.

We say it after every tournament, it's something to build on I just have no faith in the rfl to do anything to use this as a play form to really focus on the next world cup and set up some tours in the meantime to build a squad spirit leading into the world cup. And at the same time use this to raise awareness of the team and how close they are to becoming the best team in the world!!!!

Tony Smith talks about intelligence and its true they make the right decisions the majority of the time in big games. Possibly because they have more big games there's nrl playoffs soo and also international tests we have the cc playoffs and final with international rugby too. Game count maybe similar but the intensity of the games are on a different level. Representative rugby maybe the key is it not feasible to run a home nations style tournament alongside the sl season, it will benefit all teams maybe one sided but on a selfish level that will help confidance and experience Cameron Smith has over 100 representatives between test series World Cup games and soo Roby has 34!!!!!, that's just a huge gulf in international games played and one that has to be addressed!!

People always tend to say we match them in the forwards... that old saying must be wrong that forwards win the game, and backs decide by how much, because I cannot remember the last time England beat Australia?

I think there forwards tend to look fitter, make less errors in both attack and defence, and dominate field position.

Silly penalties and knock ons from forwards cost us just us much as wayward passes and kicks from the backs in the final.

I don't really get that.

Apart from the disallowed effort in the 2nd half Australia didn't really have many scoring opportunities, and full credit should go to the England defence for nullifying a potentially potent and usually free scoring attack.