Whisper it quietly, but even the mighty Wigan rugby sometimes overhype a youngster who doesn't end up cutting it.

Some lose focus, some stop growing, some get a bad injury, some just weren't all that to begin with. The trouble we will always have is that we don't have enough community clubs and schools rugby to develop this talent from an early age: until we match Wigan, Saints and Leeds I that regard we will always be having to sign up youth players from 'their' territory.

Anyway, I've seen this Bunty Afoa from NZ Warriors is up for grabs. He has a name that I can imagine being uttered venomously in the Lower Angel after a poor game, but is he worth a punt? 28 years old and 150 NRL games.

I like him but his form as been very mixed last couple of seasons.

I think he’s a confidence player. Very good or very poor. Might go well under Sam.

I disagree. Oledzki has been useless for a few years. Not sure what the hype is about personally. Our bar should be set higher than this.

Totally agree, very overrated never punched his weight

I wouldn’t put him down as the ‘pack leader’ we’re going to need to replace Vaughan. Probably a better option than Musgrove though I’d say as bench prop - though I’d prefer someone with more impact.