Objective evidence over ill informed speculation, how very dare you?

The attack v Salford was shambolic. It wasn't much better v Leeds. I didn't see the Hull game so can't comment on that one. We looked good v cas, but then it was against a poor team down to one interchange on a boiling hot day.

Now Wakefield have gone, lets pay off Dudson and Drinkwater and pick up Jai Whitbread & Mason Lino........... (I can dream can't i)

Mason Lino is garbage.



Jai Whitbread is worth having.



All quota spots have been filled.

I'd have Whitbread definitely. I'd like to see Hayes in as foil to Williams.

im also struggling to see what magic gleeson has sprinkled on this attack... its been rubbish.

Not if we paid off drinkwater they wouldn't be



But looking at Hayes i'd just play him instead, Pay off Drinkwater and pick up Whitbread

Over on Casforum they believe Crowther is still signed to join them.

Good. He's a trier but we need more that that.

I would be quite happy to see crowther go… he looks to be a bang average bottom half of the table player… we should be doing much better.

Crowther on what would be relatively low money or Currie stinking the place out for another 2 or 3 years on what I'd imagine will be a higher wage.. which are you taking?

Currie's extension was on a massively reduced wage,................................and he still isn't providing value for money!

Neither if I had a choice.



The furore around Crowther reminds me a lot of the side show around us signing Danny Halliwell in 2002. (for our older viewers).

I'm not doubting you but intrigued as to how you know with such surety?

A cab driver told me

Why have I got a picture of Jim from Taxi in my head, is that who Duckie is.

It wasn’t the Duck.

The Duck only quacks on here.

if i had to choose 1, I'm taking crowther.

The poor attempt at tackling Hellewell at Salford, which cost us a try, and then avoiding tackling Percival in the Saints game, when he could have prevented a try in the collision, have highlighted Currie`s commitment to the team.

He was doing it even when the team was winning at the start of the season. I've not forgotten his attempt at a tackle v Salford at home as he let sneyd waltz past him from 10 out without touching him. Currie has long had form for this sort of thing.

yup, and i got grief on here for saying i was going his testimonial game cos i was fed up with him and his attitude last year

What I'd definitely say about Currie, is that, just from his whole body language, he would be the last bloke I'd want to be alongside in the trenches.



If ever someone gives off the stench of going through the motions on a pitch, then it's him - it's no surprise that even now, as a senior player, whenever the captaincy role is discussed, he never gets a mention as a candidate.



I know there are footballers out there who say they don't actually like the game & only play it because they are decent at it & it earns them a living - I suspect Currie could be a RL equivalent of that from the vibe he gives off while playing.

People talk about the 'culture' at Warrington and it's inferred there's some sort of drinking/bad behaviour issue - but it's more to do with the comfortable nature of some of the players IMO. Sweeping Currie and Ratchford out of the club altogether would be an excellent start to get things moving in the right direction. Alas we gave one a 3 year contract and the other is the current captain - madness.

Come on guys it's a recruitment and rumours thread

Can’t help but find myself defending Currie again. He’s the latest scapegoat that fans seem to enjoy singling out.



Currie has his limitations, obviously. He’s not a hard hitting powerhouse. But he’s not meant to be. And as far as edge back rowers go, there aren’t many of them around.



If you compare Currie to his peers (rough examples, Farrell, McQueen, Watkins and Bell (needed a Saints example, and he plays more than the rest at present) he is remarkably comparable.



6 tries. Top is McQueen with 11, fewest is Bell with 3.

8 assists, top. (Alarmingly, more than Ratchford, Matautia and even Drinkwater…) fewest is Farrell with 1.

704 tackles, mid. Top is Farrell with 738, fewest Watkins with 690.

Missed 49, second fewest. Fewest is Farrell with 34. Bell missed most, with 90.

Meters made and average gain he doesn’t fair very well, second worst behind McQueen and Bell respectively. The best being Farrell and McQueen.

Only bell has made fewer errors, 7 against Curries 10. He has given away the least penalties and made the second most offloads behind Watkins.



Are we using him right, absolutely not. He is a creative and dynamic back rower. But this notion that he doesn’t do anything and is a poor player is just plain wrong. That left side with Williams, Currie and Ashton should be the most dangerous edge in the league. We need an attacking centre in that spot, someone who can take the chances that will come that way and has pace.



While I agree he needs to be more impactful on the ball when the hard work needs doing, we went out and signed 6 prop forwards in 2 years. Only one of them routinely makes 100+ meters a game. If we’re levelling blame at people not doing their jobs, let’s start there. Because we’re not winning the line speed contest, we’re not battering teams into submission in defence. So if they’re not doing that, and they’re not making meters, what are they doing?