I've only said it once.

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It's OK LTS, I was listening very carefully. Agree with the sentiment regarding our style of play, and woefully boring tactics. SP has to change things, otherwise we should be looking to replace him should there be no improvement by Easter 2020.

Didn’t mean you

I’m just bored with the marketing funnies I’d rather have fun watching us win a Grand Final.

Well i'd say BMM will definately here next year as his manager has just been suspended by the NRL. All 16 clubs have been told not to deal with him, good result for us

...and Waterfields

This was one of our characteristics in the Cullen years, which has reemerged. We had a talented squad back then, but we had poor resilience when it came to a bad result or being in a bad run of form, it tended to perpetuate. Cullen used to talk about it in press conferences too, saying that some result from a few weeks ago 'knocked the stuffing out of us'. On the other hand if Bradford or Saints had a bad loss, the team facing them next would end up facing the backlash! That was a big difference between us and the top sides back then.



Once the rot set in this year it seemed like we didn't do anything to change it. It wasn't even like we were blowing hot and cold, we just became the same side that meekly accepted second best to teams.



BUT we also have to acknowledge that there were two anomaly results that did not fit this trend - the CC semi final and final, when we beat good sides and played very well despite our form leading up to them. Given that we won a major trophy off the back of that, it was pretty significant!

The club's PR machine will make sure most of our fans accept the recruitment campaign as a success. They will make a big fuss of Widdop, there will be the right sort of interviews with the Warrington Guardian where the players talk about how well training is going, some of the longer serving players will be brought out to give the line "this is the strongest squad we've had in my time here". Either Karl Fitzpatrick or one of the coaches will say something like "there are no excuses now, it's time to win the Grand Final".



The mood on here will be a lot more positive after these feel good stories over the Christmas period. Wait till people start posting threads of predictions for SL 2020, at least half of the posts will have us finishing top, others who don't have us finishing top will say we're going to win the GF. Even rubber duckie who seems to be in critical mode right now, will be telling everyone that we will win the double.



There will be some thread about the Academy that concludes we have a set of young guns ready to take the league by storm. Then there will be one about what's your strongest starting 17 which will conclude that the big difference between this year and the years before is the 'strength in depth' - in 2020 we'll almost be able to field 2 squads equally strong!



Then wait till we have the pre-season army camp, we'll have stories in the Warrington Guardian about how they spent a week on Brecon Beacons training with the paras and it will be red meat to the masses on here, there will be posts saying how great the current regime is, how in the old days they used to go for holiday camp in Lanzarote but that wouldn't be tolerated in the elite set up we have today.



Meanwhile a few of the old timers on here won't have drunk the 'Kool Aid' (Wires71, lefty, me) and will start asking pointed questions, we will get told we are free to go and support Wigan, if we can't get behind the team.



Then the first two weeks of the season are going to be against Wigan and Saints and it will be a cold shower of reality.

Brilliant post totally agree with everything you've put here...the 1st 2 games could see price being shipped out cos for the life of me I can't see anything but 2 thumpings hope I'm wrong...

Awesome post, enjoyed reading and having a laugh.



Anyways I’m to old to fall for all that bull about how the roses will smell better next season. A lot of people on here agree we are short on a killer prop and no covering the ground with snow is going to hide that fact.

I'm throwing all of my hope behind Sammy Kibula now. GO SAMMY GO!!!!!

..and there we have it, in a nutshell



I've not read the WG for a few years, but I can almost predict word for word, Fitzpatrick's corporate bull, like it's from a late 80's yuppie in his striped shirt and red braces. I refuse to fall for it, because I've heard it, SO many times before, and despite 4 CCs in the last decade, nothing has changed. We are a side which takes underachievement to a new level. God knows we've had the investment. Peter Higham bringing Boyd, Tamati, Johnson, Davidson, Blake and Roach, Gregory and Drummond (whilst retaining Mike Gregory) at considerable expense. Then a total change of track, and investment in Welsh Union talent, and then the Youth policy era of early to mid 90's.

Fast forward almost a decade, and we have Moran (and Middleton's) investment, and we STILL haven't won (what's considered) the title.

I've said this umpteen times before, we're too nice. Saints, Wigan and to a certain extent Leeds don't accept failure from club legends. They sack em. We give them "jobs for the boys" positions, or contract extensions to losing finalist coaches



The "KOOL aid" had turned into 10 day old, sour milk, and is unpalletable. There are 30-50 regulars on these pages, and bar a few delibarate naysayers, we can ALL see where our problems/deficiencies lay, it's a pity the club don't.



Cynical...no

I CAN see the wood for the trees