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| Firstly I'm from Golborne and born in the 70's, What i don't understand about this area is why are Labour so popular?
What have Labour done for this area and the surrounding areas ?
Now I'm not saying vote Tory but seriously, people vote overwhelmingly for Labour every year and they do sack all and do you ever ask yourself why ? Probably because they know no matter what they do, people will still vote for them.
Golborne and Leigh are dumps plus surrounding areas like plank lane, platt bridge, abram yet people will still vote labour.
My last point on the working classes which i really can't get my head around is.
For years they are loyal Labour supporters (left wing party) and they get disillusioned so turn to the BNP which are as Far right as you can get ?? Do these people even read manifestos ?
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| I don't think you do read manifestos, becuase for a start the BNP aren't far right.......... the Labour aren't left wing, they're far left.....
Read the Labour manifesto then tell me that they're implementing there promises correctly... THEY'RE NOT
They'd rather give aid across the world whilst pensioners and starving to death/ freezing each year....... Think you should read the BNP and Labour manifestos then tell me which one is extreme?
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| You getting more and more laughable with each passing comment. I have no desire to mock the afflicted anymore, so I will leave this be and pity you.
I suggest you go out into the wide world, read more and get some education. Then you may see that in sporting parlance you have "had a mare" on this thread.
Personally only allowing whites to join the party and supporting repatriation of anyone not "british" is pretty much far right, but if you don't think so, please continue to wallow in your ignorance.
And can I say, I do hope that if the BNP get into power (which is unlikely) I hope you are 100% British and have no Irish in you for instance, or you will be up against the wall with the fuzzy wuzzys you clearly despise.
People like you sicken me to the pit of my stomach and it pains me that I have to breath the same air as cretins like you
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| Quote leigh_casual="leigh_casual"You getting more and more laughable with each passing comment. I have no desire to mock the afflicted anymore, so I will leave this be and pity you.
I suggest you go out into the wide world, read more and get some education. Then you may see that in sporting parlance you have "had a mare" on this thread.
Personally only allowing whites to join the party and supporting repatriation of anyone not "british" is pretty much far right, but if you don't think so, please continue to wallow in your ignorance.
And can I say, I do hope that if the BNP get into power (which is unlikely) I hope you are 100% British and have no Irish in you for instance, or you will be up against the wall with the fuzzy wuzzys you clearly despise.
People like you sicken me to the pit of my stomach and it pains me that I have to breath the same air as cretins like you'"
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| I think he's upset LC 
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| LOL it was Labour party policy in the 1980's for volentry repatriation...... are Labour far right? Its not far right to detest immigration and offer repatriation.......... weirdo
I think its you who needs to an education, you need to stop reading papers like the "Sun" who have repeated put lies in there papers about the BNP and general politics, and start getting into the real world.......
I have to say the same about you I'm afraid, you sicken me, because maybe not in your lifetime there will be a civil war in this country the way things are going, the British (including the blacks irish and whoever) vs Islam..........
If you support illegal wars for oil which our boys get killed, vote for LAB/CON, if you don't believe in war and don't want an Islamic Civil War the vote BNP
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| My best friend is black he's 34 and lived here since he was 2. He was born in dominica. I've spoke to him before on this subject and he seems to think he's English and i agree. I did offer to blacken up though and assume his identity, wouldn't mind retiring in the Sun.
Don't kid yourself that the BNP are only concerned with islam, they are just top priority. If the BNP came to power our economy would be worth jack, everyone would wash their hands of GB
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| Quote Mookachaka="Mookachaka"LOL it was Labour party policy in the 1980's for volentry repatriation...... are Labour far right? Its not far right to detest immigration and offer repatriation.......... weirdo
I think its you who needs to an education, you need to stop reading papers like the "Sun" who have repeated put lies in there papers about the BNP and general politics, and start getting into the real world.......
I have to say the same about you I'm afraid, you sicken me, because maybe not in your lifetime there will be a civil war in this country the way things are going, the British (including the blacks irish and whoever) vs Islam..........
If you support illegal wars for oil which our boys get killed, vote for LAB/CON, if you don't believe in war and don't want an Islamic Civil War the vote BNP'"
Can you provide evidence that the Iraq war was illegal ? or is it your opinion, so means nowt.
Just to clarify, can people be British and follow the Islam religion ? I'm unsure now after reading this.
Also can you please answer yes or no that you have no problem with Griffin being in a meeting of like minded people including the leader of the Ku Kluxx Kan?
Also do you not feel cheated that Griffins vision was to provide slogans to avoid questions about their past ?
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| Welll there you go Mucky, you have narrowed the field. It is now you, the British, the blacks, the Irish and whoever against the Muslims. Why didn't you cut the the chase in your first post instead of rambling.
You are Islamophobic. What a sad little man you are.
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| Quote Mookachaka="Mookachaka"
I think its you who needs to an education, you need to stop reading papers like the "Sun" who have repeated put lies in there papers about the BNP and general politics, and start getting into the real world.......
'" I said I was leaving it, and I will after this, but the bits in bold are utterly priceless.
I don't need to say any more, as every time you type, you dig yourself in deeper.
I will leave you to wallow in your misguided, bigoted ignorance and I will live with the pleasure that I will never have to meet you and your odious "personality."
Oh and I leave reading The Sun to ill-informed clowns like yourself.
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Do you read the news........ they're having a war inquiry as we speak, you need to get up to date
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm
I'm sure Blair will get sent to prison for war crime.... Wire Yed, the economys worth nothing now, no gold, no manufacturing industry no nothing......
They can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....
He was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me
Past, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....
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Do you read the news........ they're having a war inquiry as we speak, you need to get up to date
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm
I'm sure Blair will get sent to prison for war crime.... Wire Yed, the economys worth nothing now, no gold, no manufacturing industry no nothing......
They can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....
He was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me
Past, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....
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| Your right I am Islamophobic, as I totally disagree with dressing women like black letter boxes (burka), I dont like jahid (death against non believers of their religion), I dont like Halal meat which is an awful way to kill an animal...... it goes against everything I believe in, so yes I am
I dont read the Sun lol..... Because it lies, especially about the BNP........... Your the one whos ignorant who can't admit that the Sun lies about everything, your the one who can't admit where being take over by the third world, your the one who supports illegal wars..... so ask yourself the question, who is ignorant???????
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| Your right I am Islamophobic, as I totally disagree with dressing women like black letter boxes (burka), I dont like jahid (death against non believers of their religion), I dont like Halal meat which is an awful way to kill an animal...... it goes against everything I believe in, so yes I am
I dont read the Sun lol..... Because it lies, especially about the BNP........... Your the one whos ignorant who can't admit that the Sun lies about everything, your the one who can't admit where being take over by the third world, your the one who supports illegal wars..... so ask yourself the question, who is ignorant???????
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| There will never ever be a war in this country against Islam. There are too many good Islamists that are appaulled with the way their religion is dragged through the gutter by so few. There will be a civil war but it be the whole country against the idiots and the war mongers that run it.
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Its yet another inquiry.....Looks like it was your opinion then.
Quote MookachakaThey can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....'"
What are you on?  In a free country we live in we should all be the same and have the same religious beliefs? Suppose the quran speaks out to you, are you saying "nope we are British and christians"?
Quote MookachakaHe was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me'"
So he was trying to pursuade like minded people like Ku Kluxx Kan to stop murdering people because of colour of their skin and seek a political way of getting rid of them ? mmmmmm....would have been better to tell them not to kill and not to be racist, now that would be sensible to me. These popularists slogans seems like con tricks to me.
Quote MookachakaPast, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....'"

Grasping at straws (literally) again there. Labour have their weaknesses but Jack Straw is an intelligent person who is highly respected politician. In a proper debate between Griffin and Straw there would only be one winner. In fact Boris Johnson would rip Griffin to bits too. There is also a difference between a war objector, and a supporter of Nazi's. 
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Its yet another inquiry.....Looks like it was your opinion then.
Quote MookachakaThey can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....'"
What are you on?  In a free country we live in we should all be the same and have the same religious beliefs? Suppose the quran speaks out to you, are you saying "nope we are British and christians"?
Quote MookachakaHe was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me'"
So he was trying to pursuade like minded people like Ku Kluxx Kan to stop murdering people because of colour of their skin and seek a political way of getting rid of them ? mmmmmm....would have been better to tell them not to kill and not to be racist, now that would be sensible to me. These popularists slogans seems like con tricks to me.
Quote MookachakaPast, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....'"

Grasping at straws (literally) again there. Labour have their weaknesses but Jack Straw is an intelligent person who is highly respected politician. In a proper debate between Griffin and Straw there would only be one winner. In fact Boris Johnson would rip Griffin to bits too. There is also a difference between a war objector, and a supporter of Nazi's. 
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| On my way home tonight I stepped into some dog e but hey it is much more preferable than reading muckychappy's beliefs.
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| At the end of the day, there my beleifs and you have to respect them, as I respect all yours even though I disagree.......
This country is a prodominatly Christian country, think everyone knows that...... Why is he facing an enquiry? Becuase they have no evidence of weapons of mass destruction, the war was started over a load of lies
Jack Straw and in fact the whole of the Labour party are out and out communists..... who back the European superstate, I dont so I wont be voting for them
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| Quote Mookachaka="Mookachaka"At the end of the day, there my beleifs and you have to respect them, as I respect all yours even though I disagree.......
This country is a prodominatly Christian country, think everyone knows that...... Why is he facing an enquiry? Becuase they have no evidence of weapons of mass destruction, the war was started over a load of lies
Jack Straw and in fact the whole of the Labour party are out and out communists..... who back the European superstate, I dont so I wont be voting for them'"
And I assume you espouse these beliefs?
[i"Turn the other cheek"
"Love God, and love thy neighbour as thyself"
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
“Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”
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Oh - and Jack Straw's father was a conscientious objector - and seeing that the family was of German Jewish stock........don't imagine they would be big fans of Adolf and Co. !!!
There are two types of people who vote BNP:
* Racists.
* The ignorant, and stupid.
Anyone who claims not to be one of the above - yet can vote BNP, must be the other......or both!!
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| Quote Walt Mooney Fan Club="Walt Mooney Fan Club"And I assume you espouse these beliefs?
[i"Turn the other cheek"
"Love God, and love thy neighbour as thyself"
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
“Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”
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Oh - and Jack Straw's father was a conscientious objector - and seeing that the family was of German Jewish stock........don't imagine they would be big fans of Adolf and Co. !!!
There are two types of people who vote BNP:
* Racists.
* The ignorant, and stupid.
Anyone who claims not to be one of the above - yet can vote BNP, must be the other......or both!!'"
I'd add misguided to that little list too maybe even misplaced patriots
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| I think he was a supporter, why did he get arrested in the war becuase he wouldent fight for Britain?????? Because he supported the Nazis........... Racists, I'm not the one supporting the killing 250,000 Muslims...... I'm the one who doesnt want to see the British ethnically cleasned.....
Churchill warned us of the problems of mass immigration and Islam, I think you lot should read a few of his books..........
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| Quote Walt Mooney Fan Club="Walt Mooney Fan Club"And I assume you espouse these beliefs?
[i"Turn the other cheek"
"Love God, and love thy neighbour as thyself"
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
“Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.”
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Oh - and Jack Straw's father was a conscientious objector - and seeing that the family was of German Jewish stock........don't imagine they would be big fans of Adolf and Co. !!!
There are two types of people who vote BNP:
* Racists.
* The ignorant, and stupid.
Anyone who claims not to be one of the above - yet can vote BNP, must be the other......or both!!'"
and also the short sighted cos I know one man in the last election we had who had forgotten his specs so couldn't see the voting form properly so he voted for the top name on the ballot paper and he is neither ignorant ,stupid or a racist
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| Quote Mookachaka="Mookachaka"I think he was a supporter, why did he get arrested in the war becuase he wouldent fight for Britain?????? Because he supported the Nazis........... Racists, I'm not the one supporting the killing 250,000 Muslims...... I'm the one who doesnt want to see the British ethnically cleasned.....
Churchill warned us of the problems of mass immigration and Islam, I think you lot should read a few of his books..........'"
Listen Pal, I respect your passion but your rhetoric is best placed at a BNP meeting, because the more you say the more foolish you look. A bit like your leader who believed the holocaust never happened.
The average Joe knows we have a problem with fundamentalists, but not Muslims in general, that we have a problem with immigration and emigration.
The average Joe knows we are too soft on criminals, pay out too many benefits, appease too many minorities and wants a better life.
The BNP take advantage of peoples fears, pour petrol on them and chuck the match on. Unfortunately those fears are often well founded and the job we will entrust to the next government is to address those fears, find solutions and create a better life for the people of this land. The BNP have no solutions that will work in the real world, and it may look like 'the best of a bad bunch' decision come election time to get them solutions, but FFS the BNP are a far right version of the Socialist Worker, clueless but from a different angle..
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| Quote Mookachaka="Mookachaka"I don't think you do read manifestos, becuase for a start the BNP aren't far right.......... the Labour aren't left wing, they're far left.....
Read the Labour manifesto then tell me that they're implementing there promises correctly... THEY'RE NOT
They'd rather give aid across the world whilst [upensioners and starving to death/ freezing each year....... [/uThink you should read the BNP and Labour manifestos then tell me which one is extreme?'"
utter tosh
if you believe that the BNP if voted in would actually be able to back up their promises of ethnically cleansing britain then theres no hope for you.
Every sensible country in the world would jump on little old blighty with both feet and we would be knackered
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| Can you explain the BNP policy re the disabled?
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housing and welfare
bnp.org.uk/policies/pensioners/
"Ultimately there must be only one category of welfare recipient: those who genuinely deserve or have earned it. The scrounger entitlement mentality must be discarded. Those who can work but refuse to do so, must face the consequences of their actions on their own."
Also see elderly, pg 5 onwards:
bnp.org.uk/manifestos/county-cou ... esto-2009/
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housing and welfare
bnp.org.uk/policies/pensioners/
"Ultimately there must be only one category of welfare recipient: those who genuinely deserve or have earned it. The scrounger entitlement mentality must be discarded. Those who can work but refuse to do so, must face the consequences of their actions on their own."
Also see elderly, pg 5 onwards:
bnp.org.uk/manifestos/county-cou ... esto-2009/
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