If England got slaughtered at soccer by Brazil, with Pele scoring a wonder goal, I don't think people would say that. Sam Tomkins was worth the admission fee alone.



I agree we are at Year Zero again. The crowds aren't big enough at the Stoop, so we've nothing to lose by restarting at the Hive. Rae has hinted at a big clear out of players. At least we've got youngsters coming through.

Wigan were very good, and we just....weren't. I would get angry about it but weren't we all rather expecting something like this? I put three quid on us before the game at 7/1, I need my head examined.



I would say a total clear-out of the squad is needed, but we've done that before and it's yielded the same mediocre results. How do you solve a problem like us?

we had 10 players unavailable, even if we had a full side we would still have lost by plenty!

Yes but of those unavailable, only half would actually have made an improvement anyway. That's a bit of a red herring.

I think we certainly missed the 5 that played in the Bradford game, though doubt anyone would disagree that we would have been beaten anyway.



Sadly, it just reinforces the gulf there is between the top and bottom teams. We simply don't have the strength in depth in our team (or the quality for that matter).



£1.7m is not sufficient to pay the costs of a top 8 team in London, imo.



On a side note, IL was of course at the game. He told the Wigan players to mingle with their fans in the Kings Bar, which they did.



My sister got Sam Tomkins autograph. Who knows, may be worth money one day.

It's not the fact that we lost, or would have lost - it's the spineless way the team sent out to represent London performed! Seen plenty of heavy defeats over the years but it was the total and utter non-performance on Saturday that still sticks in my craw!